see photos of earth Blue berries formed by impact taken from Suevite ground mass
Caltech id 10 years ago....
Published February 24, 2014
The famed "blueberry" rocks discovered on Mars by NASA's Opportunity rover are not geological evidence of a history of ancient water on the red planet, a group of scientists now argue.
Instead, they propose that the tiny spherules are actually remnants of small meteorites that broke up in Mars's atmosphere. (See also "Mars Blueberries.")
In 2004, NASA’s Opportunity rover found countless gray-blue spherical rocks on Mars. Scientists proposed a number of theories—from volcanic eruptions to shockwaves caused by meteor impacts—to explain the tiny spheres (nicknamed blueberries by the discovery team), which contained large amounts of the iron-bearing mineral hematite.
The discovery team suggested that the blueberries formed when groundwater flowed through porous rocks, the way similar hematite-carrying spheres formed on Earth. The water flow sparks chemical reactions that cause the iron minerals to precipitate into small, layered balls.
When it was announced, this "concretion" model explaining the blueberries' formation seemed to solidify the case for water flowing on Mars in ancient eons.
In the journal Planetary and Space Science, however, planetary scientists at the University of Hawaii in Honolulu suggest that a meteorite model better explains various physical properties of the blueberries.
"None of the physical properties of the spherules match the concretion model," says geophysics researcher Anupam Misra, who led the study. "But the meteorite theory explains all of their properties."
Concretion vs. Meteorite
The biggest issue with the concretion model is that it cannot explain the narrow sizes of the Martian blueberries, Misra says.
On Mars, most of the hematite rocks are about 0.16 inches (4 millimeters) in diameter, and no larger than 0.24 inches (6.2 millimeters). By contrast, Earth spherules exhibit a large range of sizes, not limited to only a quarter of an inch.
These size differences make sense if the Mars rocks have a cosmic origin, Misra says. If a small meteorite hit Mars's atmosphere, it would break up into smaller pieces that would shower the surface of the planet. Just a few of these impacts could produce the many blueberries discovered on Mars. The researchers calculated that a meteorite 1.6 inches (4 centimeters) in diameter could scatter a thousand 0.16-inch spherules over a large area.
The scientists also suggest that the blueberries aren't as old as previously thought. According to the concretion model, the slow erosion processes that uncover hematite rocks would indicate that the blueberries are thousands of years old. But the apparent shininess of some of the Mars blueberries suggests they may be relatively young and haven't undergone much physical weathering.
A recent meteorite event would produce such shiny rocks, and could have impacted NASA's rovers. Images of the Opportunity and Spirit rovers show what appear to be micro-blueberries on top of the machines, as well as a circular burn mark from impact, Misra says.
A Controversial Claim
Not everyone agrees with the scientists' critique of the concretion model. "There are some pretty gross inaccuracies about what they're claiming," says Brenda Bowen, a geologist at the University of Utah who has studied concretions on Earth.
For one thing, the environment on Earth is very different from that of Mars. If the blueberries on Mars are concretions, their sizes would be limited by water availability, the size of pores in the sediment rock, and the reactants available in the environment, Bowen says.
Bowen also notes that the shininess of the rocks doesn't mean they're young. "When we look at deposits formed from hematite concretions on Earth, some are coated in dust, some in sand, and some are nicely polished," she says. "When the wind blows, you can get this kind of polishing from abrasion."
Sky Is Falling?
Though Bowen thinks the concretion theory is correct, she doesn't rule out the possibility of a meteorite explanation for at least some of the blueberries.
However, Timothy Glotch does.
"These spherules didn't form from some kind of high-temperature event, as you would expect from something melting in the Martian atmosphere," says Glotch, a geoscientist at Stony Brook University in New York.
Analysis of the blueberries using tools onboard Opportunity suggests the spherules formed from a low-temperature process, he says, adding that the resolution of the supposed rover-impact images is too low to definitively identify micro-blueberries or impact burns.
Whatever the case, a cosmic origin for the Mars blueberries wouldn't significantly change our understanding of the red planet, since other evidence points to a watery past for Mars, Misra says. But it would suggest that future scientific tools sent to Mars might need to be more robust to survive possible meteorite showers.
"If you are designing instruments to be used on Mars, those instruments need to be able to take impacts from small meteorites," Misra says.
see photos of earth Blue berries formed by impact taken from Suevite ground mass
Caltech id 10 years ago....
MY THEORY STANDS TRUE ABOUT THE FORMATION OF MARTIAN BLUE BERRY HEMATITE SPHERES AS COMPAIERD TO MY EARTH SUEVITE GROUND MAS SPHERES..UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII ARTICAL...http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032063314000245
METEORITES ...THE THREE INTERLOCKED ON THE LEFT NEVER
ABLADED AWAY FROM EATCH OTHER IN THE ATMOSPHERE, THEY HIT THE GROUND AND COOLED DOWN TO FORM THE TRIPLET BEFORE THEY COULD SEPERATE INTO INDIVIDUALS. THEY WHERE NOT FORMED BY WATER THEY ARE MALABEL AND VERY HEAVY. THE OUTER CORE IS HEMETITE BLUE OXIDE FORMED IN AN OXYGEN FREE IVAPORATION STATE WHILE FALLING BACK TO EARTH AFTER IMPACT. the iron has a widmanstatten structure / meteorites ...I think the ones on mars are too. this may be the best evidence found on earth to date as too a comparison of the mars spheres...
They've said the objects can be replicated with a high intensity plasma discharge and that has been tested here on earth.. Now that's lightening! And dust storms cause lightening.. There's MASSIVE dust storms on mars.. Is this not even being suggested?
"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings."
Indeed any transitory water would be boiling hot, at the boiling temperature of water at the historic Martian atmospheric pressure.
Precipitation of (super)saturated chemical species require nucleation sites, so perhaps boiling 'kept the balls in the air' while various mineral species crystallized on the surface, with the size range representing the size of spherules held in the suspension by the agitation of the boiling fluid.
If readers want a real mystery then ask yourself how can squares of huge plots of ancient Martian land appear on on its surface with complex border and corner design rules that mankind could only create in the last four thousand years of our agricultural history.These markings cannot be produced geologically as no known natural process obeys logical order and thus the only similar traces on Earth's surface are man made.For more details including a gigapan image and video, google "quadrata martis"
and check out the snapshot images because these areas are as stunning as the monoliths in the 2001 movie that was pure fiction when these are real!
One can draw a huge logical conclusion from the inability of our science to pinpoint the creative process that produced these Martian blueberries and that is we are not able to conduct our best science currently on foreign solar bodies due to technological constraints and this will have huge implications also on our ability to detect life or the traces of life on these same targets.It is also highly doubted by myself that sending rovers with a multitude of chemical analysis equipment to isolated Martian environmental singularities like crater systems instead of upgrading orbital telemetry capabilities and adopting much finer camera equipment technology to scan its surface wholesale, will produce real answers to the question of life, past or present on Mars.
The blueberries are the result of massive electrical discharging... This has been tested in laboratory experiments... This theory will not be looked at let alone accepted, why?.... Because IF they accept this theory they have to admit to an Electric Universe and they won't do that even though we do ACTUALLY live in an electric/magnetic/plasma universe.
Those "blueberries" that rolled out from their ancient sediment host may have formed as concretions in the presence of water but the hematite is certainly post-depositional, a result of the later dehydration of the original water-precipitated iron minerals...the hydrous ferric oxides such as goethite and ferrihydrite. And, if the blueberry hematite is really the gray, coarse-grained, platy variety "seen" from space (and which heavily influenced the Rover site selection), it is more than just diagenetic, it is metamorphic...strongly heated. Either way, the water in which they formed was long gone from these rocks that are billions of years old. It's worth noting that 'Curiosity' has focused on clay minerals which do contain water. That's what 'Opportunity' should have done in the first place.
How did this paper get published? There are photos of the blueberries embedded within the rocks. The blueberries are also distributed across the surface as they would be if they were eroding out of the surrounding sediments.
You decide, the photographic evidence is at http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/missions/mer/images-print.cfm?id=536.
@neilo westham They've known since 2009 that there is lightening on mars.. caused by the dust storms, there's documented planet-wide dustorms, there's also planetwide blueberries.. so I really don't get what the hell is going on with the scientific community.. 1+1 is not 3 here!
@Jeff KirtlandThe blueberries are the result of massive electrical discharging... This has been tested in laboratory experiments... This theory will not be looked at let alone accepted, why?.... Because IF they accept this theory they have to admit to an Electric Universe and they won't do that even though we do ACTUALLY live in an electric/magnetic/plasma universe.
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