Two new studies suggest that the contribution from Neanderthal DNA was vital to modern human genomes.

 

 

 

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Comparison of Neanderthal anatomy to modern human anatomy.

A comparison of Neanderthal anatomy to modern human anatomy.

Photograph Joe McNally, National Geographic

Ed Yong

for National Geographic

Published January 29, 2014

When modern humans migrated out of Africa some 60,000 years ago, they found the Eurasian continent already inhabited by brawny, big-browed Neanderthals. We know that at least some encounters between the two kinds of human produced offspring, because the genomes of people living outside Africa today are composed of some 1 to 4 percent Neanderthal DNA.

Two studies published concurrently in Nature and Science on Wednesday suggest that while the Neanderthal contribution to our genomes was modest, it may have proved vitally important.

Some parts of non-African genomes are totally devoid of Neanderthal DNA, but other regions abound with it, including those containing genes that affect our skin and hair. This hints that the Neanderthal gene versions conferred some benefit, and were kept during evolution.

"It seems quite compelling that as modern humans left Africa, met Neanderthals, and exchanged genes, we picked up adaptive variants in some genes that conferred an advantage in local climatic conditions," says Joshua Akey, who led the study in Science.

"The adaptive things from Neanderthals are very interesting because they are not obvious," says John Hawks of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, who was not involved in either study. Based on fossil bones alone, anthropologists would never have predicted that Neanderthals contributed to the keratin filaments and immune systems of modern people.

The fact that Neanderthal DNA is totally absent from other stretches of the modern non-African genome suggests that their versions of the genes in these regions would have caused problems in modern humans, and were weeded out by natural selection.

In the Nature study, Sriram Sankararaman and David Reich of Harvard Medical School used the previously sequenced Neanderthal genome to screen 1,004 modern genomes for sequences with distinctive Neanderthal features.

For example, if a fragment of DNA is shared by Neanderthals and non-Africans, but not Africans or other primates, it is likely to be a Neanderthal heirloom. Also, Neanderthal sequences are typically inherited in large batches, since they were imported into the modern human genome relatively recently and have not had time to break apart.

In the Science study, Akey and Benjamin Vernot, both of the University of Washington in Seattle, used similar statistical features to search for Neanderthal DNA in the genomes of 665 living people—but they initially did so without the Neanderthal genome as a reference. They still managed to identify fragments that collectively amount to 20 percent of the full Neanderthal genome.

Neanderthal Influence on Skin, Hair, Common Diseases

Despite their different approaches, both teams converged on similar results. They both found that genes involved in making keratin—the protein found in our skin, hair, and nails—are especially rich in Neanderthal DNA.

For example, the Neanderthal version of the skin gene POU2F3 is found in around 66 percent of East Asians, while the Neanderthal version of BNC2, which affects skin color, among other traits, is found in 70 percent of Europeans.

The Neanderthal version of these genes may have helped our ancestors thrive in parts of the world that they were not familiar with but that Neanderthals had already adapted to. "Neanderthals had been in these environments for hundreds or thousands of years," says Sankararaman. "As modern human ancestors moved into these areas, one way to quickly adapt would be to get genes from the Neanderthals."

"Unfortunately, skin and hair do so many things that it's hard to speculate on what specifically that adaptive trait was," says Akey.

Sankararaman also found Neanderthal variants in genes that affect the risk of several diseases, including lupus, biliary cirrhosis, Crohn's disease, and type 2 diabetes. The significance of these sequences is "even less clear."

Both teams found that non-African genomes have large continuous "deserts" that are totally devoid of Neanderthal DNA. These regions include genes such as FOXP2, which is involved in motor coordination and could play an important role in human language and speech.

The Neanderthal-poor deserts are especially big in the X chromosome, and include genes that are specifically activated in testes. This hints that some Neanderthal genes may have reduced the fertility of male modern humans and were eventually lost. However, Hawks cautions that this probably happened over hundreds of generations—it was very unlikely that the sons of Neanderthals and modern humans were obviously infertile.

DNA Hints at Other Mystery Humans

Both teams are now planning to apply their methods to other hominids like the Denisovans—an enigmatic group whose presence in Asia some 40,000 years ago is known just from DNA from a finger bone and some teeth found in a single cave in Russia.

And Akey's work shows that it may even be possible to partially reconstruct the genomes of unknown groups of ancient humans without any prehistoric DNA samples.

"That's one of the things that I'm most excited about," he says. "Paleogenomics is a difficult field because it often requires finding suitable fossils with well-preserved DNA. "Maybe we're not always beholden to bones. We can look at the genomes of present-day individuals."

It is becoming increasingly clear that the Pleistocene was awash with many different groups of early humans, hooking up with each other to various degrees. Recent studies, for instance, have found tantalizing hints of unknown groups from Asia and Africa that left genes in Denisovans and modern humans, respectively. Akey's method could give us our first glimpse at these mystery humans.

"If there is no fossil evidence and potentially never will be, this will be the only way of finding out about groups that were important in human history," he added.

56 comments
Cesar Romero
Cesar Romero

It is hard to imagine how one could have "genes," and "lose" any trace of them through "evolution." Susan Solomon's idea is far-fetched.

It is a shame when juvenile notions of politics and "political correctness" get in the way of Science. Scientists should not be "offended." We need not place value judgments on types of DNA and genes, but we should not be intimidated from making reasonable inferences from evidence. Following DNA around the world shows that those with certain genes have accomplished more than those with other genes. 


christopher Gray
christopher Gray

@Cesar Romero Because it doesn't make sense. Some of the world's best and brightest scholars come out of West Africa. They are THE most educated of all American immigrants including Asians. They just don't attain the economic success of Asians typically, not that they are poor by any means. If you're looking at African Americans, they do possess Neanderthal genes through admixture, some as high as 2%. That negates your theory even furthermore. Researchers have begun to uncover new and compelling evidence of the Black(Sudanese) presence in Ancient Egypt as well


That's the old racist model because that's just what it is........ racist. Its not about political correctness. People want to throw out the sociological factors as though they don't influence measurable intelligence, but that is ludicrous. Had you been born in different circumstances you likely would not have been able to read or write possibly. There have been many instances where Black children have grown up with adoptive parents who were White, and they managed to academically excel past their peers.



"The statistics are striking: Though African immigrants, many of them from Nigeria and Ghana, make up less than 1 percent of America's total population, first- and second-generation black immigrants comprise 41 percent of all black students at Ivy League schools, according to 2007 research from teams at Princeton and Penn. Another study, this one published in Sociology of Education in 2009, found that immigrant blacks attended select colleges at almost four times the rate of native-born African Americans. Outside of the Ivy League, almost 44 percent of African immigrants graduated from a four-year college, compared to just 18 percent of native blacks."


Remember, these students are directly from Africa with little to no Neanderthal dna. They outperform by far their cousins from the Horn of Africa(East( who are full of Neanderthal.


http://magazine.good.is/articles/ivy-league-fooled-how-america-s-top-colleges-avoid-real-diversity

Arthur Krohnert
Arthur Krohnert

Wow, does paper 64 of the Urantia book explain it in detail, why, what and when! See www.urantia/org. Reading that paper will lead you into other related papers. Presently, a fellow named Halbert on that site is authenticating it al in geologyl!

Susan Solomon
Susan Solomon

As far an an anthropological model, the use of 'Neanderthal genes' for, 'genes we have in common with Neanderthals and a progenitor' is offensive to me. Who asks a question of scientific value, such as this one about relatedness, without an open mind? To be open, you can't place these genes exclusively in the Neanderthal category in the first place. Right now we're discussing whether a line of Homo Sapiens retained genes directly from a mutual progenitor, or acquired them from Neanderthals, but there's a third possibility: 


Did both Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens inherit these genes originally, but humans who stayed in Africa continue to evolve, and lose them? To me the most likely conclusion.

Geoffrey Neumann
Geoffrey Neumann

@Susan Solomon I'm no expert and maybe someone who knows more than me can correct this, but as I understand it some parts of our DNA changes at a very predictable rate. So predictable that scientists can use this fact to date how long ago certain lineages split off from each other. This means that if the DNA that they are talking about here is only shared between us and Neanderthals because we both inherited it from Homo Erectus (the common ancestor of both of us) then scientists would date this DNA and know that it's too old to be a sign of breeding between us and Neanderthals. It would have too many of these regular mutations in it.

DiDi Love
DiDi Love

@Susan Solomon Scientists have postulated that scenario on Neanderthal DNA being denatured in Sub Saharan Africans due to the harsh African sun. Regardless, that is a likelier scenario and one we will uncover after further studies. These new studies are still in their infancy so there's no absolute information yet. Still apart from natural selection of Neanderthal DNA to the African newcomers (Due to improved climactic adaptation for the new arrivals), Neanderthals died out & were supplanted by the stronger African newcomers, so for the Neanderthal supremacist faction (Which are always around), Neanderthals can not be argued to be superior to the African newcomers who supplanted them, perhaps equal but certainly not superior. In fact, we should get away from this superior language and learn what we can from the different DNA. Another thing to note is apart from some parts of Sub Sahara Africa and some regions of Australia it appears all humans have at least 1% Neanderthal DNA so sub Sahara has likely less than 1%, if it was indeed denatured as postulated. Since Neanderthals themselves came from Africa too at some point before the new homo sapiens of 60000 odd years ago, it is likely that Sub Saharans would have had the neanderthal sequence at one point in the past but has denatured to a lower amount.

Peter Lewicke
Peter Lewicke

I wonder whether what the genomes of h.erectus was before Neanderthal, early modern,etc. arose. I get the impression that Neanderthals had the same genome as contemporary "modern type" humans, except in certain sections where they had adapted to local conditions. It would be nice to know where and when which version arose.

RBennett Gard
RBennett Gard

Milford H. Wolpoff was proposing this decades ago. 

Peter Hendriks
Peter Hendriks

Does this all mean Africans are the true homo sapiens race and Europeans and Asian some kind of hybrids. Malcolm X must be laughing in his grave. 

John Parker
John Parker

@Jerzy Kijewski I'm dubious about your illustrations. You've apparently rotated the side-view of the Neanderthal skull in a posterior direction relative to the modern human skull.  Put them both at the same angle and they're not as different as you say.

matthew warren
matthew warren

ok what you missed is that modern man popped out into existence 60,000 years ago and evolved from no other species. The only reason some of modern man has any Neanderthal genes in the is because they breed with some after they left africa. sorry to break the news to ya but modern man was clearly made. Its not what something is made out of that makes it special, its how its made that does.

Peter Moraca
Peter Moraca

It's not how something actually happened that matters, but how one believes it did.

Victor Bailey
Victor Bailey

I think I missed something here. Where did Neanderthals come from?

RBennett Gard
RBennett Gard

@Victor Bailey  Africa as well.  They left earlier than the humans who left Africa 60,000 years ago.

Angela Aloisi
Angela Aloisi

@Victor Bailey No one actually knows. Going with the evolutionary model we would presume they must have broken off hundreds of thousands of years before, yet even that is was too soon to have made all thosevarients. Blood for instence doesn't mutate, we can see our entire history through it. . .yet we can't trace a white man from ever coming from a black. Nor do we find a homo erectus in a Neanderthal. Coincidentally, we also can't find a Neanderthal in a black man, nor is a homo erectus in a white man. Yet the black man has 17% homo erectus, and the white man has 20% Neanderthal, with some guessing if we tested 1,000 more europeans, it would jump to 40% and so on. . .my theory is that the dating is off due to an event described in every ancient text around the world, and that the origin of the Neanderthal is what was called creation. The Neanderthal would be the original creation, not the created slave race, but the one made in the image of the gods. The original story that the Bible evolved from has merit even to an Atheist, and it comes clear that aliens made white man out of their own genes, then bred with their creation directly as they liked them so much. They were said to be tall men. Denisovan fits this well too. It's my theory of why these gods DNA is so hard to find, they were very long living, and may have taken off. (They left their genes in those who have the highest IQ in the world though, the Asians.) Anyhow, this is the theory I have made up. http://passionateproject.blogspot.com/2014/05/all-about-hybrid-neanderthal-named-adam.html

DiDi Love
DiDi Love

@Angela Aloisi @Victor Bailey A blogspot is not a reliable source. As for your comment about not finding Neanderthal DNA in black man is inaccurate. All modern human of all colors who are out of Africa share Neanderthal DNA. The supremacists will always distort and try to demagogue something racial into everything. All people out of Sub Saharan Africa & most parts of Australia have 1 to 4% Neanderthal DNA still active. The research said nothing about specific skin colors of groups of people having the Neanderthal DNA. What they're alluding to is Sub Saharan Africans who have NEVER left Africa have less than 1% Neanderthal DNA. Clearly blacks who were brought to the new world have mixed and acquired those Neanderthal genes even more recently, as have most people out of Africa. The supremacists who always have to racialized everything will try to make this into a racist scenario

christopher Gray
christopher Gray

@DiDi Love @Angela Aloisi @Victor Bailey Thank you. Just had a similar conversation above. The other poster was attempting to tie Neanderthal in with intelligence and historical accomplishments. I'm waiting to hear how he explains the academic success in Euro and American  Ivy League colleges by Nigerian and Ghanaian students. 


Also, as you said the African Americans and others in the diaspora DO have Neanderthal DNA, not to mention If they were of different species they would not be able to produce offspring. 

john thomas
john thomas

On the one hand we are being told that human and Neanderthal DNA is about 99% the same -- so that about 1% is different. On the other hand we are being told that about 1- 2% of our DNA came from the Neanderthals.  What am I misunderstanding

Matthew Fero
Matthew Fero

@john thomas  We also share 90% of our DNA with chimpanzees.  The reason  is that we share a common ancestor if you go back even further in time.  But that doesn't mean that we inherited anything from chimps recently. 


When they say we got 2% of our DNA from Neanderthal's, they mean more recently from Neanderthal's, not just from a common ancestor at earlier times.  (So yes, they are only referring to 2% of the 1% of the genome that was different between the two groups to begin with).  This means that there was interbreeding of the groups along the way, and the ancestral map is more complicated than a simple branch point at the time of earlier ancestors.  What we ended up with was mostly from the "modern human" coming out of Africa, not Neanterthal. 

Tom Carberry
Tom Carberry

@john thomas To make it more confusing, anthropologists have divided the neanderthal in groups such as protoneanderthal, classic neanderthal, and transition neanderthal.  I think the different groups show different types of mutations from interbreeding, which DNA tests have shown happened in all human groups within the last few tens of thousands of years.  I think the geographical distribution supports this idea, because the classical show up mostly in Europe, the proto just east of it, and the transition further east.


Geneticists and anthropologists seem to make giant leaps in theory/guessing based on very limited samples, and more importantly, on a very shallow understanding of genetics.  People forget that until about 2000, few labs could run simple DNA tests, much less genome products.  


Geneticists argue that humans almost died out about 70,000 years ago, based on evidence on inbreeding.


But evidence of massive catastrophes goes back far into human past, and I believe the neanderthal and what we call ourselves really just came out of mutations from an earlier group.


I, too, don't understand how humans and neanderthal can have 99% same DNA, and then have people claim they don't come from the same species.  They just look a little different, like isolated groups every where.

Doug  L.
Doug L.

It is possible that the researchers from Cambridge and UNED were correct and Svante Paabo's team here is, again, wrong in assuming that the presents of Neanderthal DNA in non-African populations means the European & Eurasia migrants mated with this separate species when we arrived.  Neanderthal are very different in many ways and it is important we continue to look at those differences instead of just end exploration because of a baseless assumption that were all the same species anyway because of a proven-wrong theory that we mated with this amazing, but radically different species. UNED researches re-dated Neandethal fossils in August of last year and showed they were gone before we got to Europe.


Dr Andrea Manica of Cambridge led a study published in Aug 2013 in PNAS, after the interbreeding bombshell, that proved there was no basis to Paabo's theory because there was a more likely model showing that many groups of modern humans were spread out in Africa, some more closely related to our common ancestor with Neanderthal than others and some of those groups left Africa.  You see this same diversity of ancestry in modern primate groups but you can't assume something mated with giraffe every time you see a long neck, so to speak. This is some great science structured around wrong information as often great science is.


Important info here if you can look past the mistake.  Dr Manica's model also fits the diverse haploid types of modern humans in Africa and fits the Pleistocene situation in Africa that possibly caused the situation of many closely related groups of hominids and modern humans seemingly living side by side.  This Pleistocene circumstance may have been  many cycles of geographic isolation and reconnection during each individual glacial where cycles swinging from large to small lakes and rivers pulsed as glacier blocked lakes gave way around Ethiopia and elsewhere.  Whatever the cause, diversity of closely related, or same species, hominids , including modern humans, seems to be the tune we are hearing in Africa from almost the last 2 million years.  It seems to have accelerated evolution or diversity. You have Homo Heidelberg; Rhodesiensis & Erectus all over Africa at the same 500 to 750 thousand years ago, while they were outside of Africa, too.  There may have been transitional species between Neanderthal Ancestor & modern Human from just before that time or something like Erectus and Rhodensiensis giving rise to Neanderthal and Humans, respectively while some groups completing speciation more completely than others. Mating between species just seems like fantastic melodrama that some want to be true despite the science that says otherwise.

Kathleen Cleary
Kathleen Cleary

The thing about breeding is that the mating pair have to be of the same species to produce offspring which are fertile. Therefore, Neanderthals and "modern humans" are both human. If they are both equally human the distinction between us and them is like the distinction between races of people, nothing more. Neanderthals have just been abosorbed into a collective gene pool. 

Doug  L.
Doug L.

@Kathleen Cleary  This is true, if interbreeding happened we would be the same species and the uniqueness of each wouldn't matter that much. 


The above article provides some great science but, fortunately, two other important studies show it may be incorrect about the theory of hybridization being the cause of shared DNA.

One study that indicates we could not have interbred was published on Feb 4 of last year in the Journal 'Proceedings of the National Academy of Science' (PNAS).  Here, the Department of Prehistory and Archaeology at the Spanish National Distance Education University (UNED) used "ultrafilterration" to clean carbon contaminants that interfered with proper radio carbon dating and  found that the extinction of Neanderthal likely happened 50,000 years ago while modern humans didn't leave Africa to settle in the Iberian Peninsula region until 42,000 years ago. In the same journal in August 13 of the same year, Dr Andrea Manica, who led a Cambridge study on this subject said, "Our work shows clearly that the patterns currently seen in the Neanderthal genome are not exceptional, and are in line with our expectations of what we would see without hybridization."  Hard to say which researchers are right but the science article in Nature that the above article is based upon, provides as references, some work done by the same authors where the same claims are made. That's like quoting yourself to validate what you are saying.  Obviously, I could never dare deny the sensational proof that Neanderthals & Modern Humans did it, because my comment wouldn't be published, but I can say there are some crazy radicals out there that have other, completely unfounded ideas.

Richmond Acosta
Richmond Acosta

@Kathleen Cleary Not true all the time. One species of dolphin was found to have risen from interbreeding of two separate species. 

For fertlity of the offspring of two separate species, the offspring can only be infertile if the number of chromosomes do not match. But if they did, it is possible to have an offspring who is fertile. The fertile offsprings can be only males or only the females or both sex.

Susan Solomon
Susan Solomon

@Kathleen Cleary Good question as to whether Neanderthals were 'human'. If you read anthropology and not just genetics, you will see that Neanderthals were incredibly different from Homo Sapiens in vital ways. For instance, their system of hunting/gathering was to strip the land around them bare, eating across 3-4 seasons in one place, until they were dead out of food of all sorts, animal, vegetable and mineral. Then they moved. They did not seasonly migrate. They reached puberty at around 8, and adult stature at around 10-13. Their teeth came in differently, their brain was entirely differently organized, their caloric needs were the highest of any primate - far higher than ours. They had an entirely different muscle to fat ratio, bone density, and their smell apparatus was much more highly evolved. Also, and very significantly - they couldn't run, throw, or swim. In some ways they seem to have had the same amount of likeness to us of many primates, and as most primates - we can assume they had bonds of love, communication, social structure and a wide range of interests.



Susan S.
Susan S.

Still wonder if these ancients were hairer than moderns of today.

Susan S.
Susan S.

Seriously doubt it was Neanderthal that contribute disorders like Lupus since there were cases of lupus in Africa as well.

Richmond Acosta
Richmond Acosta

@S S It was the genes that increase the risk to having that disease that the article was talking aboutl. We are separate species from dogs and rats, but they do get cancer too. It just that certain gebes make people more at risk to these diseases.

Angi Gray
Angi Gray

Lupus affects more people of African descent than any other; therefore the implication is that this genetic contribution effects risk to the benefit of those inheriting it, lowering the chance of Lupus in those populations with the gene in question. They never said any or all of the contributions were negative.

Tom Carberry
Tom Carberry

I think modern humans, neanderthals, and other variants, all came from one common ancestor and that some worldwide disaster caused a massive die out, and inbreeding among the few who survived in various pockets around the world.


Geneticists now have shown signs of inbreeding in humans, neanderthals, and denisovans.  This new research shows tons of neanderthal DNA in modern humans.


Unfortunately, I think the ice sheets that covered much of the world for many thousands of years have destroyed what evidence we might have found.

Jamie Shreeve
Jamie Shreeve

On Denise's point - there are indeed some key fossils in the Levant around 100,000 years ago, notably at Qafzeh and Skhul, and the latter in particular was often thought of as a possible Neanderthal-modern human hybrid. More recently, the very modern-looking Qafzeh material has been viewed as evidence of an earlier "failed" excursion of AMH's out of Africa. And the genetic analysis recently (2012?) done by David Reich et. al.  puts the date of interbreeding between Neanderthals and AMH's between 37,000 and 86,000 years ago, suggesting that those 100,000-year old guys were not involved. But it's hardly the last word. It would indeed be sensational to get some DNA out of any of those Middle Pleistocene Levantine hominids... but seems unlikely given the hot climate.

Wayne T.
Wayne T.

Hey, what an early Human and a Neanderthal want to do in their cave is their business.

Gabriele Menefee
Gabriele Menefee

Yes, I concur with what Denise is saying.  I would be interested also in some sort of study for those other areas.  All you have to do is look at some people and you can see for yourself the genetic codes have been passed down from many generations.  Peoples have absorbed the DNA from Neanderthals and Denisovans a long time ago.  The dominate genes take over and many of the Neanderthal traits have disappeared but they are still there ( hidden ).  They come out every now and again.


Denise Ryan
Denise Ryan

 It's a stretch limiting this interaction to only 60,000 years.  Neanderthals and modern humans were coexisting and likely interbreeding over 100,000 years ago in the Levant.  Mount Carmel has Neanderthal remains dating back 120,000 years.  There could well have been a long history of interbreeding in that entire region even before homo sapiens started moving into the southern Europe and along the Mediterranean.  Neanderthal and modern human burials have been found in close proximity in several area in the Levant -- it would be very interesting to see the results of genetic studies from these remains.  There is also the possibility that the 'deserts' in the modern human genome which don't show any Neanderthal genetic heritage could mean that both groups shared  in common large vestiges of genetic material from earlier hominid populations.  But what I find the most interesting is that 10 years ago, everyone was saying that the Neanderthals were a dead end and had nothing to do with modern human genetics.  Big surprise!  

Jonathan Williams
Jonathan Williams

I am 1.8%  Neanderthal and 1.4% Denisovan which is the perfect mix in my book.

Didier Newman
Didier Newman

After all, what is the difference between the life that is in a cell, a chimp, a neanderthal or a modern homo sapiens? Do not come and vanishes in the same way, in one breath alone? Isn’t life a single indivisible movement, an information flow that stores and changes from a common ancestor? Or is there a unique quality in some place of the tree of life, a qualitative leap detached from all evolutionary processes and unrelated to the rest of life? If so, is it the same leap that the human language makes when differentiating between life itself and the rest of the universe? Also between human beings and the rest of animals, between food and eaters, health and disease, between life and death? Along these lines, there is a peculiar book, if you want there is a preview in http://goo.gl/rfVqw6 Just another suggestion, in order to free-think for a while.

Jon Normandin
Jon Normandin

If you translate d'Capatian you get "of the big head" and I believe that to be Neanderthal and or Denisovan.  The d'Capatians were the royal families of Europe and the royal families had to protect the blood ..... they were also sire.   They understood the importance of protecting the blood line and bringing it into the general human population.  Just my opinion, I am 3.5% Neanderthal and 3.4 % Denisovan. 

Angela Dallemagne
Angela Dallemagne

It's so awesome to learn about this stuff. Thanks science :D

Brandt Hardin
Brandt Hardin

Don’t expect this “science” to sneak its way into the classrooms here in the South.  Our Lord and Savior made it very clear there is no way we evolved from these savages.  Tennessee has passed the Monkey Law legislation which ensures teachers can challenge these so-called scientists and their twisted research funded by the liberals in Washington.  Read about how we’re keep Christ in the Classroom at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/04/pulpit-in-classroom-biblical-agenda-in.html

Mark Moore
Mark Moore

@Brandt Hardin Science is how we learn about the wonder of God's creations. If your theology is in conflict with science, it's your theology that is the problem. If God is capable of creating the entire universe 6,000 or 10,000 years ago, he is fully capable of creating the entire universe with billions of years of history built-in.

If you cut down a tree in the Garden of Eden two days after creation, it would have tree rings indicating that it was much older than 48 hours. There's no reason the entire universe couldn't have been created the same way.


Creationism and evolution are not incompatible. Any religion that forces you to abandon your logic and reason and to ignore the truth in order to believe in God isn't much of a religion.

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