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Climber Conrad Anker on the State of Everest |
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Sean Markey National Geographic News |
| April 10, 2003 |
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Tall and thin with a youthful face that belies his 40 years, Conrad Anker resembles a distance runner more than one of the world's elite climbers. "I think as a young guy, I was always drawn to being in wild places," Anker said in a recent interview. "Climbing was a logical extension of that." Anker has racked an impressive array of first ascentsincluding Rakekniven, a 7,759-foot/2,365-meter granite monolith in Queen Maud Land, Antarcticaand the inevitable near-misses bound to follow a climber working at the extreme edges of his sport for more than 20 years. Today Anker is married to Jennifer Lowe, the widow of climber Alex Lowe who perished in an avalanche on Shishapangma, a 26,000-foot/8,000-meter peak in southern Tibet the same avalanche that nearly claimed Anker's own life on October 5, 1999. Earlier that year, Anker gained notice as the man who found George Mallory's body, the English climber missing on Mount Everest since 1924. This month, Anker returns to Everest, although this time he won't try for the summit. Rather, Anker will provide color commentary for the Outdoor Life Network's Global Extremes: Mt. Everest, the latestand perhaps inevitablereality television program that aims to send five amateur climbers to the summit of Everest during a live broadcast. What do you think of the program? I'm glad to be part of Everest and be part of the history and to share that with people. To say it's for the experts only would be a little bit elitist. Mount Everest seems more popular than ever. What's your take on the growing number of climbers attempting the summit? It doesn't bother me [that] more people want to climb it. There's certainly a carrying capacity. People will obviously figure out what they can and can't do. I shouldn't be there to say, "No, you can't go there because you're inexperienced but you can pay for it." Mountains are freedom. Treat them respectfully. Obviously there's no way of doing anything without impact one way or another. The impacts that are the greatest are [often] the ones that are invisible. By flying in a jet plane over to [the] mountains, you're putting many tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. So we don't see that, but we focus on a few oxygen cylinders sitting at the South Col. Yes, it's an eyesore. But that's aesthetic garbage rather than something that's really going to affect life and the quality of it. You, more than most people, travel to the most remote corners of the planet. Do you see signs of environmental change? Well there's a joke that I read one time: How do mountains hear? With "mountaineers." It was in a little Bazooka Joe gum wrapper, and I've remembered it ever since. There's a bit of truth to it. We are the ears and now the eyes of the mountains. The alpine environment is very delicate. I've been able to see change in the mountains in the 20 years that I've been climbing full-time. Glaciers have receded. The tree-line is changing. That's very rapid to see nature changing in a 20-year period. To see pictures [of glaciers] taken 100, 120 years ago and [compare them to those taken by photographers that] have gone back and put their tripods in the same spot, it's dramatic to see how much they've receded. So there's very real ways that we see. If you live in an urban environment you don't [necessarily] see these changes. How do you feel about climbing today, compared to when you first started 20 years ago? Well, climbing is life. So I don't feel the same way about life now as when I was 14 and I started climbing. Things obviously mature and change. Climbing, as my grandmother said, it's a pretty frivolous thing. She always wondered when I was going to get a real job. But climbing is a real job for me now, and I enjoy it. It's a gift that I'm able to do it, share adventure and motivation with people. Being in the wilderness is one of the best ways for humans to interact because there's a dependency and a communication and a trust that's essential to it. You don't get that when you play football, tennis, or baseball. It's humans against humans within the framework that humans are defined. You're in a baseball diamond and it's 360 feet [110 meters] to the homerun line. If you don't win by nine innings, it's overtime. It's all these rules and regulations that drive us crazy, at least me, in our modern-day society. That's what we put into our sports, our recreation. Whereas when you go into the wilderness, it's an unknown. It isn't the same each time you go there. How do you reconcile yourself to the risks you take when climbing? I think risk has always been an important part of humankind. Ten thousand years ago we were gatherers and the occasional hunter. If you think about it, going back 100 yearsrisk [was] always part of life. It's kind of to me ironic or silly that in our society, people that take risks are frowned upon. We're still programmed as a hunter or a gatherer. But yet our society tells us, 'No, you shouldn't do that.' Do business pressures ever affect the decisions you make on an expedition? Twenty years ago there [weren't] paid climbers in the United States. Now it's possible to be able to make a living at it. I think it's a good thing. The person that does this work needs to be aware that their decision-making is still theirs. Just because you're being paid, that shouldn't influence what you need to [do]. You shouldn't think, "Well, I've got to make it to the top because then I'll make more money." You need to be there and do it from your heart. In something like baseball or golf, it's numerically quantifiable if you're good or not. You have to perform. If you're not performing, you're not getting paid and you're out the door. Climbing and exploration is a more cerebral thing. There's writing that's involved with it, story-telling, being able to share things. It's a combination of all these skills that people can then put together. You're active in a number of environmental and international development organizations. What motivates that interest? The progression is that you climb mountains. You go to the top. It's neat. It's a goal-oriented type activity. But it's very self-centered because you're basically doing it for yourself. It's always been my dream to take this little two seconds of notoriety that I have and parlay it into doing greater good [on a] humanitarian and ecological [level] to make a difference in our world. I'm trying to do that through climbing. More Mount Everest Stories From National Geographic News: Everest: Now Just Another Tourist Trap? 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