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Actress Jenny McCarthy speaks during a rally on Capitol Hill calling for the elimination of toxins from children's vaccines.

Actress Jenny McCarthy calls for the elimination of toxins from children's vaccines during a rally in June 2008.

Photograph by Jose Luis Magana, AP

Susan Brink

for National Geographic

Published July 16, 2013

It all started with bad science. The now-debunked theory that autism is caused by the common immunizations nearly all children receive beginning in infancy began with a fabricated piece of research, a 1998 study published—and later retracted—in the journal Lancet. In 2010, Great Britain stripped Andrew Wakefield, the lead author of the study, of his medical license. An investigation had deemed his research an elaborate fraud.

But in those dozen years, fear of lifesaving immunizations took hold of millions of parents. Jenny McCarthy—former Playmate of the year, model, actress, and soon-to-be cohost of the television show The View—fueled parental fears. She built a movement around the flawed theory. McCarthy, who has an autistic son, wrote Louder Than Words: A Mother's Journey in Healing Autism, correlating the increase in childhood vaccinations with the rise in autism worldwide.

"She is absolutely entitled to her opinion, but to say that it's fact when it's not fact is just wrong," says Glenn Braunstein, vice president of clinical innovation at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. "It's one step down from yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater when there is no fire. It's fear-mongering."

But the movement snowballed. Congress held hearings. More than 5,000 people petitioned a newly formed Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, charging that vaccines injured their children. (Courts eventually found no proven link between vaccines and autism.) Parents began saying no to immunizations, and the percentage of parents who delayed or refused vaccinations rose from 22 percent in 2003 to nearly 40 percent in 2008. For the first time in decades, the U.S. saw outbreaks of diseases like measles, mumps, and whooping cough.

Completely Discredited

The original research began to be discredited as early as 1999, when two studies commissioned by the U.K. Department of Health found no evidence that immunizations were associated with autism. In 2001, a panel of 15 experts from the Institute of Medicine, which advises Congress, found no connection between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism. In 2004, a comprehensive review by the Institute of Medicine found no causal relationship between vaccines and autism.

But it would take almost another decade for the furor to even begin to die down. A study this year in The Journal of Pediatrics may at last put the final nail in the coffin of the discredited research. In April, researchers published a study that looked at nearly 1,000 children and concluded that exposure to vaccines during the first two years of life was not associated with an increased risk of developing autism.

Maybe, just maybe, Jenny McCarthy won't even mention autism and vaccines from her new perch on The View. That's the hope of Paul Offit, chief of the Division of Infectious Diseases at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. "In a more rational world, this discussion would be un-reopenable," Offit says. "The answerable questions have all been answered." It's not the vaccine, or anything in the vaccine. It's not the number or timing of vaccinations. Scientifically, he says, we know that.

So what is causing an increase in autism? We don't know for sure, says Offit, but the best data are genetic, involving several genes required for brain development that may generate abnormalities even in the womb. Some researchers have found a connection between older fathers and an increased risk of autism in their children. Or the increase could be due to more awareness of autism and a broader definition of the disorder.

Those theories require a lot more research. The vaccine theory does not. It was thoroughly investigated, and it doesn't hold up.

233 comments
Suzie Que
Suzie Que

I love reading people's opinion on this subject. You refuse to believe scientists and outside sources who've studied any link between autism and vaccines cuz you rally behind Jenny McCarthy, a woman who injects her face with Botox and who's son suddenly was "cured" of autism. Thanks to the parents who refuse to vaccinate illnesses are making a come back. Paralyzed or dead children are better for your family? I have one question for you, where has autism been all these years?

Kathy Hennessy
Kathy Hennessy

This is a a very good read and I am thankful for National Geographic for publishing it. I can always count on NG to publish sound science.

lia bown
lia bown

When my child was diagnosed with autism, I wanted to know what caused it. I wanted to blame someone or something(in the past). Vaccines seemed the answer. After much scientific research, not the opinion of scientist, who may be biased, I know vaccines did NOT cause my sons autism. His father was 45, and likely had HFA. From my search, there seems to be more than a strong correlation between this and having a child with autism. Science does NOT know if this could be a cause and or predisposition, so neither do I. But I do know vaccines did NOT cause autism. He received all his vaccinations. I could not live with myself, knowing I might have contributed to the death, or serious illness of a child,, due to not vaccinating. How can other parents who do not vaccinate live with themselves, knowing this? They say ignorance is bliss. sleep tight.













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Brendan OhUiginn
Brendan OhUiginn

@Louise Campbell I'm sorry, but you're wrong. First off, the link you've published goes to a site promoting anything BUT scientific research. The "scientific study" they refer to in that article is NOT a scientific study, by any stretch of the imagination.

To date, there are in fact NO scientific studies to support Andrew Wakefield's claims. His claims themselves were found to be unscientific. There is NO credible science that shows any link between vaccines and autism. Period. To continue to promote such a view is offensive and downright criminal.

Brendan OhUiginn
Brendan OhUiginn

@Louise Campbell I'm sorry, but you're wrong. First off, the link you've published goes to a site promoting anything BUT scientific research. The "scientific study" they refer to in that article is NOT a scientific study, by any stretch of the imagination.

To date, there are in fact NO scientific studies to support Andrew Wakefield's claims. His claims themselves were found to be unscientific. There is NO credible science that shows any link between vaccines and autism. Period. To continue to promote such a view is offensive and downright criminal.

Louise Campbell
Louise Campbell

This is nonsense. The latest study showing Andrew Wakefields initial finding to be 100% accurate is here: http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/new-published-study-verifies-andrew-wakefields-research-on-autism-again/


I believe it is the FOURTH such study which backs up his original study. So we have all this scientific proof, derived from double blind, carefully conducted scientific research, which shows the autism/vaccine link is solid, and yet we have government believers attempting to slate truth seekers as being delusional and blind. Sad, so so sad. 

Via Garcia
Via Garcia

Have you ever met a child that wasn't vaccinated with Autism?  I have and they are just as precious as they can be.  I do not feel sorry for them as I do for their parents who live in serious denial because their child could not possibly be Autism, they were never vaccinated.  I pray mumps don't kill them.


All those disorder were unheard of, because they were just called "retards".  The names were not around but the disorders were.  Yes it is not easy to say our (yes "our") faulty genes produced Autistic kids BUT that is the truth BUT guess what ? It doesn't matter, as a mother with an Aspergers's child I would not change a thing about my child, he was different from the day he was born...he was absolutely perfect.  I never looked for anything or anyone to blame, I was too busy thanking the Universe for this perfect and amazing little being I was blessed with, I could not have conjured him up any more wonderful than he is and not a day goes by that I am not in awe for the incredible blessing that he is.  I am immensely thank full I was granted the privilege of being his mother.


Sorry if the fear of imperfection in your offspring terrify you to the point you believe nonsense and risk your child's health and MINE to avoid, but perhaps you could be a good parent, read some books to your kids, take a parenting class, learn some tolerance for those that are differently abled and try to understand perfection doesn't mean typical.

Iren sobbi
Iren sobbi

why are they so afraid of her mention vaccines, if they are so safe and no need for more Research ???????? In Scandinavia the government vaccinated 1/2 of the population. and after some monthes they reported the unusal develpment of narkolepsy in vaccinated Group!!! they also were sure that the vaccine was safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and recomended to everyone.!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????

Fernando Casas
Fernando Casas

I would like to recommend people to start using rational arguments, use logic and trust science (which is different from trusting scientists). If someone states something, anything, he or she must provide proof. Where is the smoking gun in the case agains vaccines?

Stop the conspiracy theories. Big pharma has their agenda, granted; but that doesn't mean it is out to get you. A dead consumer is a bad consumer.

Do you know what a prejudice is? Is when you emit a judgement without information.

Lastly, if you have the time, and the intelectual honesty to do so, please read "Do you believe in magic?" by Paul Offit.

c robi
c robi

please read all the testimonials at following vaccinations dot com  -  do your own research, there is a mountain of evidence that autism, allergies, ADD, arthritis, diabetes, asperger's, etc. are all skyrocketing because of vaccines...

J M
J M

I have an Autistic child. He is my middle child. I have 3. They have ALL been vaccinated. The pregnancy with my middle child was a rough one,ending with a very premature birth (@ 25 weeks,he was 1lb 15.7oz) from my placenta starting to detach. There has been research that placenta problems and multiple ultrasounds can also be a possible cause. Is that wahy my middle child is Autistic? WHO KNOWS? But I'm not going to sit trying to find a reason or something to blame. And I certainly won't allow my children to be susceptible to diseases that could possible kill them to save me from having to put extra effort for my child because he was born different. I'd rather he be here and different then dead. And I've noticed that the majority of people claiming vaccines cause Autism are the ones whose first born child is diagnosed with Autism. Jenny McCarthy has the one child. A good friend of mine,her first born was diagnosed Autistic,so she refused any more vaccines for her first born and none for her second born. People believe what they want to believe. And a lot of people are so desperate for someone or something to blame,because if there is no one or nothing else to blame, they blame themselves. Autism is not BAD. It is not a death sentence. There are many levels to the Autism Spectrum,and anyone on the spectrum is born they way they were intended to be. "Different, Not Less"

J M
J M

I have an Autistic child. He is my middle child. I have 3. They have ALL been vaccinated. The pregnancy with my middle child was a rough one,ending with a very premature birth (@ 25 weeks,he was 1lb 15.7oz) from my placenta starting to detach. There has been research that placenta problems and multiple ultrasounds can also be a possible cause. Is that wahy my middle child is Autistic? WHO KNOWS? But I'm not going to sit trying to find a reason or something to blame. And I certainly won't allow my children to be susceptible to diseases that could possible kill them to save me from having to put extra effort for my child because he was born different. I'd rather he be here and different then dead. And I've noticed that the majority of people claiming vaccines cause Autism are the ones whose first born child is diagnosed with Autism. Jenny McCarthy has the one child. A good friend of mine,her first born was diagnosed Autistic,so she refused any more vaccines for her first born and none for her second born. People believe what they want to believe. And a lot of people are so desperate for someone or something to blame,because if there is no one or nothing else to blame, they blame themselves. Autism is not BAD. It is not a death sentence. There are many levels to the Autism Spectrum,and anyone on the spectrum is born they way they were intended to be. "Different, Not Less"

Lorraine Kelty
Lorraine Kelty

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, except Jenny McCarthy? Last time I checked this is a free county, and you are not persecuted for expressing your opinion, except of course in your publication.  If Andrew Wakefield started to be discredited in 1998 this debate was indeed going on for a long, long time before Ms. McCarthy lent her name to the awareness of the issue.  Please don't blame this controversy on her.  Almost twenty years ago at an autism conference I attended, parents were discussing how do you know what research to believe, because many times it seems to contradict itself.  The presenter said to follow the data & research, AND who conducted the study. Do they have a vested interest in the outcome? Was the research validated by a company who also makes vaccines? Always question the research.  For example in your article headline title "Completely Discredited" where you reference 15 experts from the Institute of Medicine, I'm curious, DID YOU INVESTIGATE the so called experts? Do you know who they are? Did you decide to call them experts? Or were you regurgitating a previous article or press release on this study?  Just what are they so expert at? Who are these nameless faceless people, and what are their credentials? Do they also sit on the board of a vaccine manufacturer, or pharmaceutical company? If they are paid by said companies doesn't that discredit or at the least cloud their conclusions as they have a vested interest in the outcome? Companies who probably make billions, if not more worldwide. Just because a report was COMMISSIONED by the U.K. Department of Health does not sanction it's validity. Who conducted the study is what really matters. I would love to say it's about saving lives (vaccination), and preventing Autism (choosing not to vaccinate), but any intelligent individual with a pulse knows this is really about money, and how much more can the big pharmaceutical companies make. I think they view the few that might be damaged as an unfortunate causality. The problem is it's not just a few anymore.  If there was money to be made in PREVENTING Autism you can bet that would be the headline. There is in fact money to be made they just don't know how, yet.  It seems to me your article was extremely thin in the research department, and high on gossip column shock value as you tried to make one individual responsible for people choosing not to vaccinate.  You need to dig a lot deeper my friend.  Poor article, BUT that's just my opinion. My credentials if you're still reading at this point are the last twenty years of my life spent trying to dig back out of an autistic hole. I pray for Autism to be only a bad memory for all of us! I pray for truth, not sure I've heard it yet.

Lee Merrick
Lee Merrick

Vaccines do NOT cause autism.  


Vaccines do prevent killer disease.  


Choosing not to vaccinate your child because you think there might, maybe, possibly be  a connection with vaccines (despite the fact this idea has been disproven) exposes them to diseases that can cripple or kill them.  

And even if vaccines DID cause autism:  Seriously, you'd rather your kid be crippled or die, than be a little socially awkward?  


Those are some pretty f'd up priorities!

Tabitha Davis
Tabitha Davis

@Mister To You


Wow! Looks like you are practicing your "God given right to remain as ignorant as you wish"!?! I love how you start off by trying to sell yourself to your audience, and then you try to justify your personal beliefs with your education. This is a prime example of how uneducated most educated people really are. If you want to justify your personal beliefs with your education, get educated on BOTH sides. This is where I puncture your "evidence-proof bubble", because it isn't as resistant as you seem think it is.

With that said, Mr. Third Year Undergraduate Chemistry Major, Please explain to me, how in the hell are unvaccinated children putting vaccinated children at risk? If vaccinations are as successful and beneficial as you claim, common sense would tell you that there would be no way these vaccinated children could contract the illness' in which they were vaccinated against! Any person with an untainted brain, (whether it be for or against vaccinations) would have to say that the only children at risk would be the ones that weren't vaccinated? Hmmmmm
Guess this is where my "nose begins"!
Ergo, no---you SHOULDN’T have the right to spew your biased bull**** anymore than Dr. Mark Grier. (You are to our government and pharmaceutical industry, the same as you claim Dr. Mark Grier to be to Dr. Wakefield). You currently do, but you shouldn’t. If we lived in a country that valued rational thought a bit more, advocating for the hit men might be treated legally as similar to Saddam Hussein, who was charged with premeditated murder, imprisonment and the deprivation of physical movement, forced deportation, and torture of innocent people, because he was the "Leader of the world".

Tabitha Davis
Tabitha Davis

Mister To You


Wow! Looks like you are practicing your "God given right to remain as ignorant as you wish"!?! I love how you start off by trying to sell yourself to your audience, and then you try to justify your personal beliefs with your education. This is a prime example of how uneducated most educated people really are. If you want to justify your personal beliefs with your education, get educated on BOTH sides. This is where I puncture your "evidence-proof bubble", because it isn't as resistant as you seem think it is.

With that said, Mr. Third Year Undergraduate Chemistry Major, Please explain to me, how in the hell are unvaccinated children putting vaccinated children at risk? If vaccinations are as successful and beneficial as you claim, common sense would tell you that there would be no way these vaccinated children could contract the illness' in which they were vaccinated against! Any person with an untainted brain, (whether it be for or against vaccinations) would have to say that the only children at risk would be the ones that weren't vaccinated? Hmmmmm
Guess this is where my "nose begins"!
Ergo, no---you SHOULDN’T have the right to spew your biased bull**** anymore than Dr. Mark Grier. (You are to our government and pharmaceutical industry, the same as you claim Dr. Mark Grier to be to Dr. Wakefield). You currently do, but you shouldn’t. If we lived in a country that valued rational thought a bit more, advocating for the hit men might be treated legally as similar to Saddam Hussein, who was charged with premeditated murder, imprisonment and the deprivation of physical movement, forced deportation, and torture of innocent people, because he was the "Leader of the world".

Yang Yangs
Yang Yangs

We need to graph the percentage of autism in vaccinated and unvaccinated children over the last few years....

Erwin Alber
Erwin Alber

Jenny is in my opinion both right and wrong: right that vaccines cause autism but wrong in clamouring for green vaccines, as vaccines need to be abolished, not "greened".  : 

Vaccination has been a failure, a fraud and a disaster from the beginning, starting with Jenner's barbaric cowpox vaccine against smallpox.

Vaccines have never prevented anything apart from health, sanity and common sense.  

I have arrived at the inevitable conclusion that vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise dressed up as disease prevention by means of junk science. The authorities know very well that vaccines cause autism but can't afford to admit it but I guess that if I had caused a 6000% increase in autism I would be tempted t lie about it as well!

http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/deadly-deception/

http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/do-vaccines-save-lives-what-infectious-disease-mortality-graphs-show/

http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/to-vaccinate-or-not/

Laura Speck
Laura Speck

@Kathy Hennessy Massive vaccine cover-up confirmed: Secret documents prove vaccines cause autism

Tuesday, September 30, 2014 by: Ethan A. Huff, staff writer
Tags: MMR vaccineautismgovernment coverup

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/047072_MMR_vaccine_autism_government_coverup.html##ixzz3Eo36Q88P

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/047072_MMR_vaccine_autism_government_coverup.html##ixzz3Eo2o9c00

(NaturalNews) The ongoing debate over whether or not vaccines cause autism would probably take on an entirely different tone if key information that has been mostly censored from the public was fully brought to light. Hidden documents that have been locked away for more than two decades reveal that the MMR vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella does cause autism, and regulators, drug executives and various others have known about this for a long time.

A Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed in the UK has forced the Department of Health to release confidential documents outlining the details of MMR's initial approval back in the 1980s. These documents reveal that GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), the manufacturer of the MMR vaccine Pluserix, knew that there were problems with the vaccine causing a high rate of adverse events in children. Among these were encephalitis and other conditions associated with autism.

Concerned that the British government was withholding information about MMR's dangers from the public, the FOIA request was filed in response to the growing number of vaccinated children who were coming down with debilitating gut problems, brain damage and other symptoms believed to be associated with MMR. As it turns out, these suspicions are now validated.

"We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease," admitted Tina Cheatham, Senior Advisor to the Administrator of the Health Resources and Services Administration of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), in an email to CBS News' Sharyl Attkisson. "Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures."

CDC, Pediatrics, US government and Merck all admit MMR vaccine causes autismThis admission is huge, as encephalopathy following vaccination is a known trigger of autistic symptoms, and something that the confidential documents from the UK also admit. GSK, the British government and various other players all kept this information under wraps, even after brave souls like Dr. Andrew Wakefield came forward publicly with data linking the MMR vaccine to autism-related health outcomes.

Reading between the lines, health authorities have, in fact, linked MMR to autism -- but they won't come right out and say it. Rubella, for instance, the German measles component of MMR, has been known to be a cause of autism since the 1960s. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has admitted this publicly, as has the National Immunization Program (now the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases). Even Merck & Co. a major manufacturer of MMR vaccines, has admitted that vaccines in general can cause autism.

"[R]ubella (congenital rubella syndrome) is one of the few proven causes of autism," stated Walter A. Orenstein, M.D., former Assistant Surgeon General and Director of the National Immunization Program, in a 2002 letter to the UK's Chief Medical Officer.

"[R]ubella virus is one of the few known causes of autism," explained the CDC on its "FAQs (frequently asked questions) about MMR Vaccine & Autism" page, which has since been removed from public view. It is still available in some web archives.

Dr. Julie Gerberding, M.D., M.P.H., the current President of Merck's Vaccines Division, is also on record as admitting that people with a predisposition to mitochondrial dysfunction can develop autism following vaccination. A minimum of 20 percent of vaccine-induced autism cases are associated with mitochondrial dysfunction.

"Now, we all know that vaccines can occasionally cause fevers in kids," stated Dr. Gerberding back in 2008 during a segment on House Call with Dr. Sanjay Gupta titled "Unraveling the Mystery of Autism."

"So if a child was immunized, got a fever, had other complications from the vaccines. And if you're predisposed with the mitochondrial disorder, it can certainly set off some damage. Some of the symptoms can be symptoms that have characteristics of autism."


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/047072_MMR_vaccine_autism_government_coverup.html##ixzz3Eo2wa1CK

Meredith Weaver
Meredith Weaver

@Louise Campbell If you check the references, most of the actual scientific studies indicated (ie, those published in scientific journals, not by Wakefield or in junk papers like The Daily Mail) don't even mention vaccines or note that vaccines DO NOT cause autism.


Just because you found a Google hit that supports your opinion doesn't make your "facts" true. Sad. So very, very sad. Next time, I suggest reading something with actual science in it.

Brendan OhUiginn
Brendan OhUiginn

@Louise Campbell I'm sorry, but you're wrong. First off, the link you've published goes to a site promoting anything BUT scientific research. The "scientific study" they refer to in that article is NOT a scientific study, by any stretch of the imagination.

To date, there are in fact NO scientific studies to support Andrew Wakefield's claims. His claims themselves were found to be unscientific. There is NO credible science that shows any link between vaccines and autism. Period. To continue to promote such a view is offensive and downright criminal.

Poohs Mom
Poohs Mom

@Via Garcia   Interestingly, US Congressman Bill Posey has revealed that the CDC has also set up an orchestrated campaign to shape public opinion about vaccines. One of their biggest moves is to go online where information isn’t controlled and spin to fit the goals and agendas of large corporations. The campaign attacks bloggers and websites, even people who question vaccines at all, they intend to vilify them, make them feel stupid, and turn others against them.

Meredith Weaver
Meredith Weaver

@c robi "vaccinations dot com" is not a scientific source. There is in fact a mountain of evidence that vaccines are not linked to any of the diseases you noted. For scientific reading, try a scientific journal (such as Vaccine, a peer reviewed medical publication that published a 2014 article entitled "Vaccines are not associated with autism: an evidence-based meta-analysis of case-control and cohort studies.")

Fernando Casas
Fernando Casas

@c robi We have had vaccines for over a century with NO spikes whatosever of such illnesses during all this time. I recommend you do serious research and trust in science, not hearsay. Please, stop spreading fear and lies. You might cause a spike on preventable diseases.

Fernando Casas
Fernando Casas

@Lorraine Kelty Is not freedom of speech; science is not a matter of opinions. If McCarty was to say the sun did not exist, that's fine; but when she jeopardizes the life of children that might be saved with vaccines, then we have a real problem.

Phillip Beatty
Phillip Beatty

If you can't see that any research that is paid for by a law firm to "find" connections between a vaccine and AUT should be thrown out, then nobody will ever be able explain it to you.

What is it like having no idea? Must be horrible.

Maple Not Given
Maple Not Given

@Lorraine Kelty  You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I think the author is making the point that facts are not opinion. I could opine many things but that will not make them facts. We would be better spent trying to find the actual cause  and developing improved therapies.


As well I'm not sure how much money is in vaccines, relative to prescription meds, personally I would love to see some head-to-head comparisons of statins—it might be that cheaper older, generics are more efficacious, but "Big Pharma" needs to come up with a new model (it doesn't have to be better than before it just has to work).


I'm ASD, my son is ASD, my wife is ASD, and so is my daughter, correlation is not causation, but I would want to investigate a possible genetic link. Did I mention my mom and my grandfather (her father) both had ASD traits, and if tested today... but of course there may be other causes or combinations of causes, and we will not know with out asking and doing research—and so far the vaccines have far more positive benefits than potential negatives...



Poohs Mom
Poohs Mom

@Lee Merrick  Interestingly, US Congressman Bill Posey has revealed that the CDC has also set up an orchestrated campaign to shape public opinion about vaccines. One of their biggest moves is to go online where information isn’t controlled and spin to fit the goals and agendas of large corporations. The campaign attacks bloggers and websites, even people who question vaccines at all, they intend to vilify them, make them feel stupid, and turn others against them.

Iren sobbi
Iren sobbi

@Lee Merrick , do not be so naiv, losing a child from a disease is one moment of sarrow, losinig a child for Autism is a living hell of sarrow, pain, and cry.

Lorraine Kelty
Lorraine Kelty

@Lee Merrick  Autism can be much, MUCH more devastating than making children socially awkward, seriously. Research is what's needed on the cause of autism, not name calling.  I would like to see a show of good faith by the huge drug companies that should have nothing to hide, and perhaps much to gain (if they found a cure). A portion of their vaccine proceeds donated to Autism research and finding it's cause. Large corporations donate huge sums of money to charities all the time. What better public relations move than to settle this argument once and for all. Let's get to the bottom of this issue, and stop it from happening in the first place.  Why isn't anyone talking about research to stop autism? We are too busy attacking each other. Wake up people, look at the bigger picture here!   Yes get your priorities in order!!!

Aina Ostrø
Aina Ostrø

@Tabitha Davis Those babies that died from wooping cough in 2010 were all un vaccinated, because they were newborns. Wooping cough were actually an eradicated decease in the US because of vaccines, but reappeared because of anti-vaxers. Tell the babies parents you did the right thing not to vaccinate your children

Jessica T
Jessica T

@Tabitha Davis  "Please explain to me, how in the hell are unvaccinated children putting vaccinated children at risk?"

THE CHILDREN WHO AREN'T VACCINATED AND DEVELOP THE DISEASE OPEN UP THE POSSIBILITY FOR THE ILLNESS TO MUTATE AND DEVELOP IMMUNITY AGAINST OUR VACCINES IF THEY HAPPEN TO SURVIVE AND REPRODUCE. EVER HEAD OF NATURAL SELECTION? OR OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T TAKE A FULL COURSE OF ANTIBIOTICS? SAME LOGIC.


BY NOT COMPLETELY ERADICATING THE ILLNESS YOU ARE PUTTING EVERYONE AT RISK OF A POSSIBLE MUTATION IMMUNE TO OUR VACCINES. THAT MEANS THAT EVERYONE WHO WAS ALREADY VACCINATED COULD POTENTIALLY FALL ILL FROM THE MUTATION RESISTANT TO OUR VACCINES BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? THE MUTATION MEANS THAT THE CHILDREN WHO WERE ALREADY VACCINATED ARE AT RISK BECAUSE THE VACCINE IS NO LONGER SUFFICIENT.


Gonna end this with a quote taken directly from you; "Wow! Looks like you are practicing your "God given right to remain as ignorant as you wish!?!"


Please excuse the capital letters, too fed up with all this ignorant bs

Palmer Haasch
Palmer Haasch

@Tabitha Davis  Actually, unvaccinated children put the community at whole at risk. There is a principle called herd immunity, and it states that when a critical amount of the population is vaccinated, the community as a whole can develop an immunity to a disease. There are many individuals that simply cannot be vaccinated: pregnant women, infants, those undergoing chemotherapy, some people with autoimmune disorders, and the elderly. These individuals are protected by a vaccinated community: the more people that are vaccinated, the less hosts a virus has the ability to multiply within and spread through. Therefore, there is much less of a chance of a virus spreading through a population and infecting those who cannot develop immunity through vaccinations. So yes, unvaccinated children do put people at risk.

I'm not saying that vaccination should be forced against personal beliefs, but a community mindset rather than just an individual mindset needs to be applied to the issue.

So please, get educated on both sides. This kind of resistance against vaccines and self-centered thinking is what is causing outbreaks of measles and pertussis in 1st world countries such as the United States. So you decide: would you rather vaccinate a child or try and treat a case of measles that could permanently damage their health or another's forever?

Phillip Beatty
Phillip Beatty

Funny how people are so quick to support emotional "facts" and bash true facts when they simply don't understand.

What DO you understand anyway? What is it like to be so void of clear thought?

I didn't like having friends anyway...

Meredith Weaver
Meredith Weaver

@Erwin Alber Vaccination a fraud....? So, you'd be okay with contracting smallpox, with its mortality rate of 35%? I guess you'd be okay with being paralyzed from polio complications too, since Dr. Salk's vaccine is clearly evil. I suppose next we should abolish penicillin and electricity to make a full return to the dark ages.


Vaccines have their issues, but they have saved many lives. Please try a few studies written by actual medical professionals.

Palmer Haasch
Palmer Haasch

@Erwin Alber  I might be more inclined to actually believe you if you had the mental capacity to back up your claims. I'm going to be frank: It is because of people like you that diseases such as mumps, measles, and pertussis are making a reappearance. So I'm just going to address your claims one by one.

One, vaccines are not a fraud. Jenner's vaccine, while it did violate modern ethics principles, was entirely successful. Vaccines are named because of the "vaccus" root related to cows. James Phipps, the young boy, was successfully  inoculated against smallpox. This is where vaccines started. They wouldn't have taken off if they weren't successful. 

Your second contention is also entirely inaccurate. Vaccines eradicated smallpox, to start. Are you familiar with the procedure? WHO workers created a herd of immunity that surrounded an outbreak or infected person(s), and quarantined it. Eventually, the virus dies out in the area, moving closer towards total eradication. In simpler words: person gets sick. They make sure people around don't get sick. The sick goes away. Vaccines have also helped to eliminate diseases in first world countries such as polio, mumps, measles, and pertussis. Unless, of course, you'd like to catch polio, then be my guest.

Vaccines are by no means a "junk science". While there is a market for vaccines, this is due to the fact that they are necessary. Vaccines have proven themselves time and time again. As I previously stated, smallpox was eliminated through ring vaccination. 

Finally, to your sources. First, it is never wise to only present one source for a claim. The one source is likely biased, so it is imperative that a wide range of sources are presented to support your claim. You do not do this. You provide three articles from a conspiracy theory website that is not likely credible at all. To directly address your second source, this graph is a clever play on people's lack of knowledge. It graphs the mortality rate: what percent of cases result in death. Vaccination prevents a person from contracting a disease, not like an antibiotic to treat it. Thus, the mortality rate of a disease will not change no matter who you vaccinate. A more appropriate graph that does not support your claim would be one that shows the average number of cases in relation to year in the world. Due to a lack of true evidence, this graph relies on people's lack of knowledge and confirmation bias.

So please. Stop spreading these things. Through this, you are putting children, communities, nations at risk. Or at the very least, find some actual sources. Also, don't get me started on the multitude of logical fallacies you've committed.

Phillip Beatty
Phillip Beatty

The fact that AUT is a genetic disease, and can't be contracted like a virus shows that you know nothing of AUT or of vaccines.

I'm not a doctor. Neither are you, but reading the title of articles only makes you look stupid.

I bet you didn't know (or you ignored the fact) that the scientists who conducted the research on MMR and AUT connections were hired by a law firm to prepare them for a lawsuit they were getting ready to pursue.

Also, after the scientists were proved false (most of them quit before the research was finished), the lead scientist (hired by the law firm) had his license revoked and may no longer practice in the US or the UK.

You are probably going to get mad and post retaliatory comments to this, which proves one of two things:

1. You are not capable of clear thought.

2. You are using emotional thought to form your decisions.

.. Actually, I guess that is one thing...

I honestly wonder what it is like to not be able to see obvious facts. Can you really not see what is right under your nose?

Aloma Alber
Aloma Alber

@Erwin Alber you and I share a rare last name. also I just wanted to note that giving up gluten and wheat has helped in some cases, won't cure it but treats it and helps some. would be better to rethink the science from the top as you note. 

Regan Copple
Regan Copple

@Laura Speck @Kathy Hennessy Natural News is a tinfoil-hat, crackpot conspiracy-theory website run by a nutjob named Mike Adams. Here's some additional information from a good skeptic website, rational-wiki, note the final warning in the last sentence Laura.

NaturalNews.com (formerly Newstarget) is an anti-science conspiracy website founded by Mike Adams (self-labeled "The Health Ranger") which promotes assorted woo.

The site particularly specializes in vaccine denialism, AIDS/HIV denialquack cancer medicine and conspiracy theories about modern medicine. It also promotes quantum woo, specifically to do with many worlds and quantum consciousness. The site advances a hard green position and also promotes conspiracy theories about President Obama and gun control. Even other quacks think it's a quack site.

If you cite Natural News on any matter whatsoever, you are almost certainly wrong.

Eloy Sanchez
Eloy Sanchez

@Fernando Casas @c robi Thank you but they won't change their minds.  It's ok though, they are doing us a favor.  It's a form of population control.  The idiots will decrease one or two generations.

Poohs Mom
Poohs Mom

@Fernando Casas @c robi  Interestingly, US Congressman Bill Posey has revealed that the CDC has also set up an orchestrated campaign to shape public opinion about vaccines. One of their biggest moves is to go online where information isn’t controlled and spin to fit the goals and agendas of large corporations. The campaign attacks bloggers and websites, even people who question vaccines at all, they intend to vilify them, make them feel stupid, and turn others against them.

Poohs Mom
Poohs Mom

@Phillip Beatty  Interestingly, US Congressman Bill Posey has revealed that the CDC has also set up an orchestrated campaign to shape public opinion about vaccines. One of their biggest moves is to go online where information isn’t controlled and spin to fit the goals and agendas of large corporations. The campaign attacks bloggers and websites, even people who question vaccines at all, they intend to vilify them, make them feel stupid, and turn others against them.

Mike Pritchard
Mike Pritchard

@Lee MerrickIf ignorance is bliss, then you must be the happiest person alive! Do your research on ASD. Socially awkward? Really? Are you saying the link to Autism and vaccines has been debunked? Did you debunk them yourself or did your sheeple mind acquire that knowledge from misinformation sources? Research it people! Both sides and then make your own decision for yourself and child because I am not living on this planet to please people like Lee Merrick. The bottom line is we are all looking out for the BEST interest in our children and as human beings. Where is the compassion to understand that and not take it personal because the neighbor decides to vaccinate their child or not? Did I blame your parents for vaccinating you Lee? No. I just blame them for raising you to jump on a particular band wagon of the masses without knowing anything about the research done on both sides just because you "feel" like you know what you're talking about.

Phillip Beatty
Phillip Beatty

Have you ever watched Sherlock? The main character is amazed at how little people actually think.

It is frustrating to see something so clearly, to separate the facts from the emotional thoughts, and then have to explain something to someone who refuses to believe simply because they don't understand.

Just because you don't understand does not mean you are right. I will stop there rather than continuing with what Benedict Cumberbunch would continue with...

Brian Purcell
Brian Purcell

@Eloy Sanchez - Is it really necessary to start with the name calling? It's been my experience that people who resort to doing so have nothing substantive to stand on. Cheers.

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