I am shocked that nation Giographic would do such a hack of a job. Deer antler velvet is not IGF-1. It is deer antler velvet. Deer antler velvet contains IGF-,1 Igf-2 and many more growth factors naturally.It is not banned in the NFL or Major league Baseball. IGF-1 is banned and the argument is that it has IGF-1 is in it. So on that school of thought milk steak and many other products have IGF-1 in them so what they are saying is if you drink milk or eat steak then you are cheating. The deer antler velvet extract is not a synthetic version of deer antler velvet. It is basically a concentrate of deer antler velvet. So it is all natural. Not synthetic like the gentlemen claim to try and sell you his product. Show me where the NFL or MLB officially stated it was banned. I can show you quotes from players that are taking deer antler velvet and are not hiding it. So why have they not been suspended if it is banned. I can show you statements from the NFL and MLB saying it is not banned. MLB is being sued right now for telling its player to not take deer antler velvet not because it was banned but because swat had contaminated product. Leave it to our media to never get a story right or to put the time or effort into writing the truth. I have lost all respect for national giographic. Used to be a quality publication. Lazy journalist.
@Curtis Fouts Thanks for your comment. I know it's easy to use harsh words behind the veil of the Internet, but I just wanted to point out that I spoke to two doctors (an orthopedic surgeon and an endocrinologist) for this article, who also fact-checked the text. It was not a hack job.
@Christine Dell'Amore@Curtis Fouts I must agree in part with what has been said here (not the way it was said!), you have written a very basic article on one of the largest, most respected platforms in the world in NGO.
Your title reads"Deer Antler Velvet—What Is It, How Does It Work?", but your article talks about IGF. IGF and DAV are two different things completely!
Also, the people you have interviewed clearly have little to no knowledge on DAV. Here is what was written "Deer antler velvet is essentially a growth hormone called "insulin-like growth factor 1," or IGF-1.". Who ever said/wrote this knows nothing about DAV. DAV is DAV, not IFG, it contains IGF and around 389 other active ingredients including omega 3, chondroitin, glucosamine, protein etc, etc, etc.
Christine I think it is great that you have written this article, but the information you have provided is very minimal and not on topic at all. Maybe change the title to "IGF—What Is It, How Does It Work?".
Best.
@Christine Dell'Amore @Curtis Fouts It's also easy to use weasel words like "IGF-1 has shown promise" to avoid openly stating there's nothing that proves the deer antler velvet product does anything. Plus, even if the product does contain IGF-1, there's nothing to show that IGF-1 works when the product is taken. In fact, the article says "deer antler velvet is essentially IGF-1", and then goes on to discuss IGF-1, disregarding the product itself almost completely.
And yet the title of the article contains "How Does It Work", which assumes it does work, which has not been shown. So that phrase should read instead, "Does It Work?" Of course, the simple answer would be "there's no proof it does", and that would make the article much shorter.
After complaining about this article, I received an email from the author, and some of my comments are replying to it.
I notice that the user "Antler Farms" (as seen in earlier comments) has changed his name to "Eric Knight". I questioned if there was a link between the original name and a commercial site of that name. One quick Google search turns this up: "Eric Knight, Sales Manager at Antler Farms reports that sales and inquiries were up dramatically since the SI article was published." And now NGO has helped. Well, well. Perhaps we'll see another user name change.
The author suggested I read NGO's Terms of Service, noting it only forbids comments that are offensive or otherwise violate TOS, because to do more than that would be "censorship". I did read the TOS, and I admit I didn't see anything forbidding commenters from promoting a commercial product, whether the product is worthwhile or not. We'll see if this comment violates TOS.
I was going to end this comment with this: "I'm sorry to see that NGO allows articles that are half PR release for an unproven product. I'll read all their articles with that in mind."
But at the last second I thought I'd Google the sentence in the article beginning "Deer antler velvet is essentially a growth hormone". By some strange coincidence, that and the next sentence are VERBATIM on the page http://www.sportsnutritionmarket.com/IGF-Deer-Antler-VelvetHGH-Natural-Boosters_c_12.html! And even the PICTURE of the deer (?) is the same! Somebody copied this, but who copied who, or did they both copy a common source?
This article sure does look like a hack job. It looks like the author took a press release AND the picture and consulted some experts and thought that was balance. NGO and the author should be deeply ashamed.
@Nate WhilkThis story is based on interviews with medical experts who emphasize that deer antler velvet is not regulated and should be used by anyone unless under a doctor's care. There was no press release used as a source for this story. The section "How Does it Work" refers to what IGF does in the body. It does not refer to how deer antler works as a performance enhancer. Finally, regarding the charge that my story features the same lines as copy on the website SportsNutritionMarket.com: The site appears to have copied large parts of my story verbatim and without attribution.
Hi @Nate Whilk - Thanks for the comment. Our community rules do require that members use their real identities when posting and that they don't post anonymously, which is why the name was changed. If you have any further questions about our Terms of Service or moderation policies, please feel free to email us at community@nationalgeographic.com.
@Nate Whilk I originally posted as Antler Farms and was later notified by NGO that I could not post as a company, but I could post using my real rame as a company representative. That is why I changed the username, to comply with NGO's request. I reveal my relationship to the company in the post below. There is nothing wrong with discussing deer velvet antler, by me or by NGO. It's a topic that is very hot at the moment and there is a lot of misinformation out there.
@Curtis Fouts Curtis, deer antler spray is definitely synthetic. It is processed to isolate IGF-1 and then combined with other chemicals. Once all those alterations are done to a food product it is no longer "100% natural", or in other words, synthetic. A natural source of IGF-1 is like you stated - milk, steak- and deer velvet antler capsules, which has only been dried and powdered.
And the contention that the deer velvet antler spray (sublingually absorbed IGF-1) is not banned in the NFL is contrary to every single report I've seen regarding the current controversy. IGF-1 is listed as a banned substance.
http://images.nflplayers.com/mediaResources/files/Banned%20Substance%20List.pdf
@Eric Knight@Curtis Fouts Eric you have some great points over this whole forward and back that is going on, but IGF spray is not 'synthetic'.
IGF Spray is a bi-product of DAV, we all now know that. The IGF is extracted using alcohol and put in a bottle. Although not "100% natural" due to it being a bi-product, it is still not synthetic. It is not made in a lab!
The issue with the IGF Spray is it is tarnishing the DAV industry. DAV has been used in China for over 2,000 years and has some 390 active ingredients, IGF is just one of them. DAV is an amazing product with amazing benefits and can't be put in the same category as Antler Spray.
Best.
