It's always amused me that the authors of these articles always note that the only expeditions that "find" the ark are religious backed. Well of course. The scientific community knows it's all a bunch of hooey. An allegory. Nothing more.
Photograph by Martin Gray, National Geographic
Published April 28, 2010
But some archaeologists and historians are taking the latest claim that Noah's ark has been found about as seriously as they have past ones—which is to say not very.
"I don't know of any expedition that ever went looking for the ark and didn't find it," said Paul Zimansky, an archaeologist specializing in the Middle East at Stony Brook University in New York State.
Turkish and Chinese explorers from a group called Noah's Ark Ministries International made the latest discovery claim Monday in Hong Kong, where the group is based.
"It's not 100 percent that it is Noah's ark, but we think it is 99.9 percent that this is it," Yeung Wing-cheung, a filmmaker accompanying the explorers, told The Daily Mail.
Raw Video: Purported Site of Noah's Ark in Turkey (Courtesy Noah's Ark Ministries International)
Noah's Ark Location in Turkey a Secret
The team claims to have found in 2007 and 2008 seven large wooden compartments buried at 13,000 feet (4,000 meters) above sea level, near the peak of Mount Ararat. They returned to the site with a film crew in October 2009.
Many Christians believe the mountain in Turkey is the final resting place of Noah's ark, which the Bible says protected Noah, his family, and pairs of every animal species on Earth during a divine deluge that wiped out most of humanity.
"The structure is partitioned into different spaces," said Noah's Ark Ministries International team member Man-fai Yuen in a statement. "We believe that the wooden structure we entered is the same structure recorded in historical accounts. ... "
The team says radiocarbon-dated wood taken from the discovery site—whose location they're keeping secret for now—shows the purported ark is about 4,800 years old, which coincides roughly with the time of Noah's flood implied by the Bible.
"Noah's Ark" Wood "Way, Way, Way Too Young"
Skepticism of the new Noah's ark claim extends to at least one scholar who interprets the Bible literally.
Biologist Todd Wood is director of the Center for Origins Research at Bryan College in Tennessee, which pursues biology in a creationist framework.
As a creationist, Wood believes God created Earth and its various life-forms out of nothing roughly 6,000 years ago.
"If you accept a young chronology for the Earth ... then radiocarbon dating has to be reinterpreted," because the method often yields dates much older than 6,000 years, Wood said.
Radiocarbon dating estimates the ages of organic objects by measuring the radioisotope carbon 14, which is known to decay at a set rate over time. The method is generally thought to reach its limit with objects about 60,000 years old. Earth is generally thought to be about four and a half billion years old.
Across the board, radiocarbon dates need to be recalibrated, Wood believes, to reflect shorter time frames.
Given this perceived overestimation in radiocarbon dating, the wood the Noah's Ark Ministries International team found should have a "traditional" radiocarbon date of several tens of thousands of years if the wood is truly 4,800 years old, Wood said.
"I'm really, really skeptical that this could possibly be Noah's Ark," he added. The wood date is "way, way, way too young."
Wood thinks Noah's ark will never be found, because "it would have been prime timber after the flood," he said.
"If you just got off the ark, and there's no trees, what are you going to build your house out of? You've got a huge boat made of wood, so let's use that," he said. "So I think it got torn apart and scavenged for building material basically."
(Related: National Geographic's search for Noah's flood.)
"Noah's Ark" Found in Right Country, on Wrong Mountain?
Another reason scholars are skeptical of the latest Noah's ark discovery claim is that Genesis—the first book of the Bible—never specifies which peak the vessel supposedly landed on in Turkey.
"The whole notion is odd, because the Bible tells you the ark landed somewhere in Urartu,"—an ancient kingdom in eastern Turkey—"but it's only later that people identified Mount Ararat with Urartu," said Jack Sasson, a professor of Jewish and biblical studies at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee.
Stony Brook's Zimansky agreed. "Nobody associated that mountain with the ark" until the tenth century B.C., he said, adding that there's no geologic evidence for a mass flood in Turkey around 4,000 years ago. (See "'Noah's Flood' Not Rooted in Reality, After All?")
The Noah's Ark Ministries International explorers are "playing in a very different ballpark than the rest of us," Zimansky said. "They're playing without any concern for" the archaeological, historical, and geological records.
Better Explanations for "Noah's Ark" Structure?
Even if the Noah's Ark Ministries International team did find a wooden structure or even a boat on Mount Ararat, there are other explanations for what the structure might be.
For example, it could be a shrine constructed by early Christians to commemorate the site where they believed Noah's Ark should be, Zimansky said.
Even in that speculative case, it wouldn't be 4,000 years old. "The Bible hadn't even been written yet," he said.
Bible scholar Sasson said he thinks biblical writers intended the story of Noah's ark to be allegorical, not a true recounting of historical events. By presenting a scenario in which humanity is punished for its wickedness, "they were trying to draw us to the notion of a God who asks us to be acceptable," Sasson said.
UN to Consider "Noah's Ark"?
On its Web site, Noah's Ark Ministries International says the Turkish government plans to apply to the United Nations to put the Noah's ark discovery site on the UNESCO World Heritage list, a designation given to places of special cultural or physical significance.
But the agency hasn't received any official requests from Turkey for "the inscription of 'Noah's ark'" into the list, UNESCO spokesperson Roni Amelan said in an email.
Such a move would take time, Amelan added. "This cannot be done overnight."
Even in that speculative case, it wouldn't be 4,000 years old. "The Bible hadn't even been written yet," he said. everything in the bible is before it was written the whole book is in passed tense so there go that idiots comment I wonder if this is the intelligence's of all these specialists
They found a text in Iraq that predates the bibles story by some couple thousand years. I don't believe a lot of Christians will quite accept it due to the possible lack of support to be accepted by the Catholic church. If you believe that the bible was designed and put together by your imaginary friend your wrong. Its a document of historical fiction and inst very consistent within its own texts.
National Geographic has never been and will never be honest about *anything at all* that is directly related to the truth of Scripture. This organization has always hated and denied God and lied about the truth of HIs Word every way they can.
Try to prove me wrong.
Now, don't show yourself to be an imbecile and pretend ad hominem fallacies are legitmate substitutes for hard, scientific evidence, confirmed by the scientific method even though you fools routinely use "scientific method" very selectively against your opponents when it's true effectiveness is against the charade that you clowns stand for.
Again, prove me wrong.
Wow. People actually believe this. Amazing. Anyone who accepts the literal meaning of the bible is nuts. These books have been roughly translated and altered for thousands of years and people are going to debate as if it is factual.
Noah's ark? You have got to be kidding me! National Geographic, you have just lost all credibility and certainly my respect. A global flood never happened. Noah's ark never happened. Thinking that anyone should treat this ancient, man made fable as having actually taken place is laughable and an insult to the intelligence of serious, critically thinking people. Your magazine is now a joke just like the made up, so-called holy book that spawned this nonsense in first place.
The article reads:
"Many Christians believe the mountain in Turkey is the final resting place of Noah's ark, which the Bible says protected Noah, his family, and pairs of every animal species on Earth during a divine deluge that wiped out most of humanity."
Just to clarify, the word "species" is not written in the Bible.
The actual word used in the Bible is "KIND"
There is a difference in meaning between the words "SPECIES" and "KIND".
If the Bible would use the word "species" that would mean that the Ark contained two tigers, two lions, two cheetas, two panthers, two pumas, etc, etc, etc...
But the Bible does NOT say the word "species" (acounting for all types of felines), rather it uses the word "KIND", (accounting for only two felines, one male, and one female... Period!
Some people may use the word "species" and the word "kind" interchangeably out of etymological ignorance... But some may be well aware of the difference, and continue to use the word speciesth the intention to deceive... But don't be fooled, the two words don't mean the same thing.
Doesn't it make sense that God took only the basic Kinds ot animals in the Ark?
And, would it really be posible to fit ALL SPECIES of animals that exist on planet earth in the Ark? Not within the specified measures.
But if we would group all the basic KINDS (NOT SPECIES) of animals in the world, we could easily pick a blue one and a pink one of each, and fit them perfectly within a smaller space than the Ark given the dimensions specified in the Bible.
This comment is meant for educational purposes only. I will not participate in any debate because the truth to this topic can be widely found.
Whoever is sincere about knowing the truth can validate what I shared in this message.
Let me get this straight. Carbon dating is OK to use for their religious artifacts, but not ok to use for EVERY PIECE OF EVIDENCE REFUTING THE BIBLE?? Wtf...
Urartu - an ancient kingdom in eastern Turkey????????????? LOL
Urartu is Armenian kingdom!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ))))
READ HERE >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urartu
I believe in the word of God. But, It does make sense that Noah's family used the boat for scrape and shelter after the flood. The other boats found may have been someone else trying to ride the storm(flood) and ran into a mountain.
I am a hopeful one that looks forward to the day we can have the official confirmation on finding Noah's Ark. But that part in the article about the people needing something to build
homes with makes since that they probably used the lumber from the ark. I am starting to believe that's what happened.
@henry brown Boy, that's ignorance gone to seed. Hey, dude. You have the Internet. A ten second search would deliver you from being so stupid.
That's really pathetic. Yet, as is typical of lying fools, you call others "idiots." lol
@Brandon Killman Either you're lying or the report is bogus. The Scriptures began being written by Moses approximately 1000 years after the flood. There is NO (read my lips) legitimate evidence that can be proved or validated that is 2000 years older than the Scriptures.
I'll repeat myself so there will be no misunderstanding and you will appreciate THE ONUS IS ON YOU TO SHOW THE PROOF because I'm telling you unequivocally that nothing 2000 years older than the Bible exists, period, at all, anywhere in the world, that can be shown to be evidence of a creation of man unless it's way down below sedimentary layers deposited by the flood. In other words, to be 2000 years older than the Bible, it must be something that would be impervious to the deterioration of 4400 + years of being buried deeply in the ground.
But, Boy! HOW I would love for something like that to be found! Wow.
Again, PROVE ME WRONG! You simply cannot.
@Gary Sellars First off, I would not start and end a sentence by throwing out derogatory names when you state the ad hominem fallacy is not a legitimate means of proving your point in the same sentence. Also, I found this... (http://creation.mobi/hong-kong-ark-fiasco) Which is one of many links on the internet proving this find is a hoax. I assume Nat Geo speculated that this was the case before posting this story, which would explain the cautious title they assigned to it.
As for your first claim, I've personally never seen an article on here that has been hateful or denied god in any way. I've only seen articles that try to take an impartial view on the natural world as we observe it. If you have links to these articles, I would love to see them.
@Matthew Townsend The Bible is very unique in that it was created by many different authors over a few thousands years. No other book can match that claim. And the Dead Sea Scrolls text is almost verbatim for the Old Testament of the Bible we have today. The Bible mentioned places people didn't even know existed until the archeology proved it correct. It actually has held up well compared to other ancient classics. I suggest you read, Surprised by Faith, by Dr. Don Bierle, a skeptic and scientist who set out to prove the Bible wrong, only to discover it was right.
@Matthew Townsend actually the Bible is quite often used as a historical reference point in time because of it's accuracy. Also if you know any history of the Jews you know that there were no alternations as it was sacred to them essentially. Also there are many accurate translations from many many scholars. Please do a little research before making a comment.
@Matthew Townsend If you had enough rational ability to honestly ponder and think with greater complexity than through only a couple of simplistic thoughts, it wouldn't be that very hard for even a half-wit like yourself to understand that the Bible contains all the figures of speech that one encounters in everyday communication.
To place upon such a great volume of proven reliable work, the all-encompassing restriction of literalness shows you to be firstly, incredibly lacking in shame for your arrogantly stupid proclamation, in addition to being a blustering, pompous fool who has already revealed that you would not be able to show yourself capable in any discussion about said Book, without scurrying off to the numerous atheists' sites who feed lying fools like you garbage to parrot.
Mocking people who aren't around is the work of lying cowards who have an inordinate and callously foolish disregard for the ease with which they can be put to shame for their stupid and ignorant remarks.
Care to give it a go?
@Paul Roth "Noah's ark? You have got to be kidding me! National Geographic, you have just lost all credibility and certainly my respect."
Interestingly, you've advertised what an idiot loon you are--so completely stupid that you presume to possess all knowledge and therefore have no need to do any of many dozens of different keyword searches that would show you that hundreds of societies around the world have a history of the ark and the flood.
Not only that, you dishonest and deceitful half-wit, but we have historical records of references to the ark by different people, according to my ten minute search (that's right, really laborious--something a CLOWN LIKE YOU COULD HAVE DONE), as old2400 years ago by a secular record and Nicolas of Damascus reported it before the Lord Jesus Christ was born and then three references to Noah's ark by the Jewish Historian Josephus and all three of these sources declare the ark to be, gee, the same place as this find. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
Now, because idiot atheists LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH JUST LIKE YOU most people understand that being declared a "hoax," "bogus," etc., is REALLY MEANINGLESSbecause scumbag liars like you are unconscionable and you actually DELIGHT IN LYING!
YOU MAY QUOTE ME! In fact, please do. It's good to have one credible witness. ;-)
@Paul Roth Actually as an anthropologist, a global flood is recorded in numerous societies from Mesoamerica, Asia, Middle East, etc. Civilizations thousands of miles apart at roughly the same time. No one knows why.
@Paul Roth Then how do you explain that so many ancient civilizations actually talk about a flood. Have you any evidence at all to disprove it?
@Paul Roth U r bloody non sence u Jewish
@Paul Roth "Noah's ark never happened."
Wow. Really? Because you say so, huh? When people need answers, don't use the Internet, just come to know-it-all, Paul Roth, right? Knowledge rests with you; no need to for an honest search of the Internet, right?
That must be your disposition because you didn't use the Internet before you made that completely ignorant remark. How do I know that? Because, unlike you, I do use the Internet to do HONEST searches.
An honest search of the Internet would have shown you to be a lying fool. "Lying" because your claim is patently and provably FALSE but you're too unscrupulous and dishonest to SPEND THE SECONDS it takes just to do a search that would lead you to the facts to examine before opening your mouth and declaring lies as facts; "fool" because anyone who makes ignorant claims in front of others when a ten second search would give evidence to the contrary is definitely a fool who doesn't have enough self-respect to care that he makes a fool of himself in front of the whole world. Why bother to honestly search the Internet when all knowledge rests with Paul Roth?
Here's the other reason I know you're a fool. Such stupidity as I've just exposed would never happen to a man who is not a fool. Reasonable people "cover their bases."
Yet, you stupidly mouth the words of idiot atheists because you don't have enough self-respect to care whether you put your foot in your mouth and shame yourself. That's pretty pathetic.
Another lying clown too lazy to do his due diligence.
Right now, I can point you to five video documentaries that expose you as a lying fool who did, in fact put his foot in his mouth. What's really terrific is that you can access those documentaries in seconds without my help.
Yet, you haven't. Why? Because you're an ignorant fool who wants to believe lies, and not being content there, you lie to others.
But God is using you to show that His Word is true as I will reveal below.
I didn't stutter; did you notice that? Show me what a fool you are and answer me before you do any responsible research on the Internet. LOL
"He who answers a matter before he hears it, it is folly and shame to him."
That is Proverbs 18:13, which you obviously don't care was written by the man historically known as the wisest man who ever lived. He surely pegged you, though fools commonly don't have enough sense to know when their own words have put them to shame.
You could really use a year or two in the Book of Proverbs. Just substitute the time you now give listening to lying idiot atheists spew fabricated lies about their religion.
Oh. Since you are wont to "answer a matter before you hear it," I should tell you whereof I got that perspective on 'atheism as a religion'. It came directly from atheists! Here's their definition, which you can copy and paste and search for yourself: "Religion is belief without evidence." That's how I know atheism is a religion; the atheists told me! What's funny is that they're too stupid to recognize their self-condemnation!
Which is doubly funny when one considers that it's impossible to have evidence for what doesn't exist!
I'm now wondering how many years will atheists stupidly keep parroting this self-indicting "definition" before they wake up and realize that they are advertising that not only are they fools (the fool has said in his heart, "there is no god" Ps14:1) but they're announcing to the entire world that they're religious fools *while* they mock religion!
He who sits in the Heavens laughs. Ps2:4
So do I. LOL
@Jesse N. Bible is modified shape nowadays because changes have been made in it..Authentication source is QURAN and HOLY Prophet (PBUH).
Quran tell us that Ark contains specieis on each and every animal..I can give u reference if needed
@Jesse N. Neither of these words were written in the bible.
@Dave Machine "Carbon dating is OK to use for their religious artifacts, but not ok to use for EVERY PIECE OF EVIDENCE REFUTING THE BIBLE?"
I didn't read that remark by anyone. Can you kindly show me who said it?
You wouldn't lie about it, would you?
@Suren Petrosyan What exactly are you trying to make clear? I don't understand. Both links that you provided make it clear that both "Urartu" and "Turkey" are generally different names for the same region. Are you trying to make it clear that the The Republic of Turkey only got it's name due to the Armenian Genocide? Even so, if that is the case, well to be totally plain, what does any of that have to do with a boat landing in that region or not?
I also believe the Word of God.
Many trees in the world were hit by strong waves, and got rooted out and floated until the waters receded. Other trees were buried under large masses of mud. The ones that were left floating were spread by the waves all over the earth and were readily available to use as wood...
Even if that weren't so, Noa's family would have left the Ark as it was to live in it because it already had enough strength and served as shelter. (The Ark had a roof, obviously to keep the falling rain out). After the rain stopped, the animals didn't need to stay in the Ark, rather they were probably put in barns that were probably built from the excessive wood left from the massive flood. By the way, just one tree they could have found would have been enough to construct many things... Remember that a lot of ancient trees from the time of the creation were VERY VERY large, and VERY wide in diameter, and that would have made them naturally stronger to withstand the flood as well as thicker to liver longer days after being rooted out...
So it makes more sense to think that they used other trees for timber, and not the Ark itself.
If you believe in the Bible, you will notice that the measurements described in it match the measurements of the found Ark. And also remember that the measurement used was Egyptian cubits.
Any other questions from you, or anyone else are welcome, @Contanya Perry-wade,
but this reply is intended for provoking thought in an already Bible believer, and NOT intended for debate.
If anyone would like to debate about anything pertaining to this theme, please send me a personal message, and we can discuss matters at a personal level, otherwise I will not entertain the lust for words.
What I just wrote can be researched freely, and is widely available online.
God created science!
@Contanya Perry-wade Sure, if God existed and this is a true story, they probably did use the ark for wood. Especially since every other tree in the world is now dead, but why is a dead tree not useful for wood anymore? so they might have used the ark, but they did not have to. The big issue here is those dead trees, plants bushes etc wont be providing foliage for animals to eat, (or us) so what did they do? What did carnivores do for food? Eat one or both of the ONLY surviving animal of a species? Gee how many animals got wiped out anyway even after surviving the flood? Also, why is there no physical proof of any flood around the world? None. This is a story of homicidal genocide and subsequent incest to repopulate the world and Christians worship it? And it is not even their story, a version of it exist in another religion 100's of years before.
@Gary Bradger Not me. I tend to think they built homes out of rock/stone. Remember that Noah was 600 years old when he came off the ark. He had lived around people who aged to over 900 years. I think they built their homes out of more substantial material that would last. Lumber doesn't hold up as well as stone.
@Gary Bradger What has not been taken into account by those who believe that the timber of the ark was cannibalised by Noah and his family is the weather. Prior to the flood the water canopy would have made the climate temperate but after the flood the temperature would have dropped considerably and as the water receded the temperature would have kept dropping (3 degrees F for each drop of 1,000 feet). The ark would have been very quickly snowed in. Also don't forget humans and land animals need water to live, so animals and humans would have quickly followed the receding water. IMO the ark was not cannibalised, it was abandoned very quickly. Paul Scutts.
I have just posted an answer about a similar doubt @Contanya Perry-wade had. Don't be discouraged. The same person who found the Ark of Noah, has also discovered other important Archaeological artifacts and places matching the Bible's account. In recent days he discovered the Ark of the Covenant (The most valuable item ever to be found in the world)!!!!!! Along with the Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ (Which was found ALIVE still in it), and there is an appointed time in which these things will be revealed to all humankind to bare witness of the Gospel of salvation. Please see the YouTube video called:
Revealing God's Treasure - Ark of the Covenant
Any other questions from you, or anyone else are welcome,
but this reply is intended for provoking thought in an already Bible believer, and NOT intended for debate.
If anyone would like to debate about anything pertaining to this theme, please send me a personal message, and we can discuss matters at a personal level, otherwise I will not entertain the lust for words.
What I just wrote can be researched freely, and widely available online.
I've listened to many hundreds of despicable lying atheists who collectively don't have enough character, integrity and honor, if converted to cash, to buy a cup of coffee at 1910 prices. My answer to you is very simple and concise. PUT UP OR SHUT UP! Show me the money!!! i.e., prove idiot atheism or imbecilic evolution.
Listen carefully now:
I UNAPOLOGETICALLY DECLARE, WITHOUT FEAR OF CONTRADICTION, THAT YOU CANNOT (not "will not" but CANNOT! :-)) PROVE ONE ASPECT OF EITHER BY THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD.
Huh? Why is this a big deal? Why am I making it a big deal?Because I have been listening to lying idiot atheists and evolutionists for YEARS claiming "Evolution is FACT!!!
Idiot atheists are so inexplicably DISHONEST that they have, for years now, been saying, "Religion is belief without evidence" and YOU LYING CLOWNS have deceitfully, dishonestly and despicably INSISTED that "Science is FACT, Religion is stupid and ALL THE EVIDENCE IS ON OUR SIDE!"
Well, since I can add 2+2 without a calculator, I INSTANTLY KNEW THAT WAS TOTALLY BOGUS! So I challenged you liars years ago. But guess what? In all this time, talking to hundreds of atheists and evolutionists, guess how many have been honest enough to say, "Well, gee, because the scientific method requires observation and replication, we absolutely can't provide one iota of scientific evidence for atheism or evolution and we have been deceitful scumbags for lying about it and claiming "Science is on our side" when, just like you, the scientific method is simply worthless with anything but science and since atheism and evolution can't be demonstrated, replicated or observed, it's true, they don't qualify as "science" and have to be considered religion of philosophy and sinceIT WAS WE WHO ATTEMPTED TO MOCK YOU FOR HAVING NO "PROOF" thenIT IS WE WHO DESERVE SHAME OF FACE FOR OUR LYING, DECEITFUL HYPOCRITICAL MOCKERY WHEN WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT. Please accept our heartfelt apologies!
Now, because the bulk of you clowns are idiot unconscionable atheists, I know you've forgotten that my point is the number of atheists/evolutionists who have admitted this.
ZERO! NOT ONE. What does that say?
There's not an honest atheist to be found.
Now, if I've just told the truth, that means every one of you slime balls are just as dishonest and won't admit it either!
So, here's my other reminder.
Show us the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE OR STICK YOUR RELIGION WHERE YOU WANT US TO STICK OURS! :-) Our God does miracles! (as can be seen by any idiot able to type "doctor documented miracles" in Google.) But your god is too stupid to know what "science" is! Your god is a pervert who promotes pedophilia.
Now, I didn't stutter, did I?
@Griffin Ashley I've read National Geographic for over 50 years and you will not find one article where National Geographic, as an organization, gives *any* credence at all to God or the Bible. Virtually everything they produce, routinely, if not continually, contradicts Scripture. They've always done this.
"I would not start and end a sentence by throwing out derogatory names." Then don't. Do whatever you want; that's your privilege.
@Remington Rogers @Matthew Townsend The bible is accurate when it comes to wars, leaders and etc like Remington said but it has been altered and edited. Many of the stories that remain in the bible were hand chosen by the crusaders while dozens of stories and books were burned and made illegal by the king. That is but a single event that altered Christianity. There are a handful of sub religions under Christianity (Presbyterian, Catholic, First Baptist, etc). Prior to the crusaders killing all other sub religions other then those endorsed by the king, there used to be dozens. It had undergone dozens of alternations because for over 2,000 years there was not one collection of stories like there is now. All of the stories were scattered and they were not uniform. Anthropologically you can find multiple versions of each story. The Catholic Church around the 13th century created a board where they went through stories and chose which ones to include. Stories are somewhat factual but not literal. They are meant for inspiration, to teach morals and values.
@Antoinette Reyes @Paul Roth lol You got one point half right. Lots of people know why. Because there was a world wide flood and as people moved around the world they told history stories. The flood of Noah is the MOST KNOWN STORY in the entire world. You can google that if someone shows you how to use a search engine.
I have to assume you don't know how to use a search engine because of all the lies you told that could have been avoided with a ten second search followed by are quick overview of headlines.
@Muhammad Faisal Wow, why do you have to use "Jewish" as a derogatory remark? Also your writing skills are terrible.
@Gary Sellars For being so religious you tend to reek of blasphemy, intolerance and rage. All things that God looks down upon. In the time of Jesus, hospitality was a prized social value which people like you lack. Maybe you need to read the Bible a few more times so you learn how to behave. You can lead someone to the river but you can not make them drink. What you do instead is scare people away from your beliefs because of your craziness. None of these comments are personal attacksw and even if they were the bible says to turn the other cheek. Yet you do the opposite and throw biased, ill-informed low blows with poor language. All you accomplish that way is displaying the insecurity and lack of confidence in your character as a terrible person who enjoys looking for fights in the most cowardly way.
@Ken Mejias Your ignorance of the Bible is showing. Noah didn't disembark from the ark until the last bird he sent out did not return. This was after the previous one returned with a leaf in its beak. So, upon disembarking, foliage had already started growing.
@Ken Mejias There's ample evidence of a flood all over the world. Instead of looking for it, you just chose to parrot lying atheists. I'll mention just two of the many evidences. Fossil graveyards, which collected by virtue of the flood waters are one and upright petrified trees through many sedimentary layers all over the world. These trees could not have "just happened," nor could they have been buried by men, nor could sedimentary layers build around them. Every scenario is ludicrous except the flood.
Now, for the many other evidences, like I said, quit parroting liars and do some honest research yourself.
@Ken Mejias FYI, according to the bible, the meat eaters only started eating meat after they came out of the ark. only then did they have the fear of man instilled in them. It helps to read the bible for those who think its fables; u will be amazed... wat u got to lose???? even beta, wat u scared of??? finding the truth????
@Gary Sellars People during that time counted years by the seasons. Little interesting fact: Noah 150 when came off the ark and anyone said to be 900 was 225. If you look at homes and buildings from that time period I agree that stone buildings from that time stand today.
@Paul Scutts @Gary Bradger I think you're forgetting the many lakes that would have been formed and I think there is a rather good argument that the water was potable. I don't think Noah had any problem at all finding water. I think the Lord provided everything he needed, but I do agree with you that those coming off the ark did not cannibalize it, though considering its size, they could have used some of the wood if they had a use for it. The amount would not have been a large percentage. But I think they built their homes out of rock or stone.
@Jesse N. I don't think the Ark of the Covenant story is reliable for several reasons, not the least of which is that there is no evidence for it. Another reason is the long known story that because of Solomon's apostasy, a copy was made and the real was smuggled out and taken to Ethiopia, where they claimed that it has been watched and protected by consecrated and committed men ever since. I find that story to be much more plausible than Ron Wyatt's story. Another issue is Ron's implausible account of the blood of the Lord dripping down and falling on the ark. This is absurd because the Scriptures clearly say that Jesus presented His blood in the true sanctuary in Heaven, not under the cross.
@Gary Sellars You do not have to publish something in favor to express a belief in something. Just because they have not written anything that gives "credence" to Christianity, that does not necessarily mean they are against nor does it mean that they have any bias to state otherwise. PS they have had a few documentaries in favor of some bibliological stories.
@Griffin Ashley Those were "skills"? lol allah, aka satan told him to attack Jews and whatever the devil says,
N.G. will remove that racist stuff if it's flagged, right?
@Antoinette Reyes You weren't there; you don't know what they did and you have already completely destroyed any credibility you might have one time tried to establish.
Furthermore, You're lying again. Why do you like to do that so much? Pity the people who have to deal with your children.
The years were 360 day years. You don't know that because you like to switch between lies and ignorance.
Even your reference to such nonsense shows you're laughably stupid. HUSH! before everyone is convinced you're too stupid to breathe.
@Antoinette Reyes I see you're exceptionally slothful in your research. That's typical. I never expect more.
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