National Geographic News
160 comments
asif hashimov
asif hashimov

Forget the stars. I wonder about the horison on the Moon. Why is it so near? It looks about 50 - 60 metres away, and it seems you can walk round the Moon in a few hours. I know the Moon is 6 times as small as the Earth, but it can not be as small as in this d--d photo. I think, if they take me there, I can cover that distance in 5 -6 hours. 

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

Dear Launius, a space rocket or a landing module isn't a car where you have to step on brakes to stop it. And there is no atmosphere or friction on the Moon to reduce the speed. To slow down or bring a landing module to a standstill you have to create revertive thrust, and the nearer you get to the ground while landing, the more back thrust you need, so you can't throttle back the engines, on the contrary, you have to throttle up, because the nearer you get the more gravity you have. Otherwise you will BUMP against the ground. This is elementary physics, and if you don't know or can't understand this, then I don't think you deserve the position you occupy at your Smithsonian Institution, unless you are trying to fool people. 

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

If that photo from NASA is a valid one, then I wonder why we CAN'T see the shadow of the US flag on the Moon ground while every other item around HAVE their shadows on it. Doesn't that mean that the photo given as a PROOF of Moon landing, on the contrary, clearly demonstrates that the

photo itself is a very poor sample of PHOTOMONTAGE. That flag wasn't set up on the Moon, it was set up on the photo. And then, why the astronaut who is trying to show his tribute of respect to the US flag isn't standing with his face to it but sideways - the flag is one or two metres to the right from the 

astronaut. And why the shadows from the landing module and from the 

astronaut are stretching in different directions.

Lori Quaresimo
Lori Quaresimo

I also want to say, if anyone had landed on the moon wouldn't you think they would have brought a telescope with them? That would have been a great vantage point to look out into space. They brought dune buggies but no telescope?

Lori Quaresimo
Lori Quaresimo

I too believe the US never landed on the moon. There are too many anomolies. Just using common sense, shows that no one ever landed on the moon. Anyone saying they believe the US landed on the moon, doesn't want to face reality. I believe it's a sense of pride, contradicting their own common sense. It insults their intelligence. To think the US fooled so many people is too much for some people to understand. Even the people working on the Apollo project wouldn't want to think that they have been used in this hoax. You have to remember this wouldn't be the first time the US has lied not only to it's own people but to the world. The US has lied many times through the years to gather popular support. Why do you think they stopped going to the moon? Because people became bored watching this on TV. There is a record of people calling their local TV stations asking them to stop interrupting their regular scheduled programs. That's when the government decided to stop the Apollo program. You have to do an in-depth research to understand why and how the US put on this hoax. You can't just look at a video of astronauts saying they are walking on the moon and say you believe they are actually walking on the moon. Just like just because the US government tells you something shouldn't be taken at face value. Just because the news like CNN or MSNBC reports something doesn't mean it is the truth. You have to find out the source of their reporting and if the source is the US government you can't believe it just because it came from the government because as I said, they have lied so many times through the course of history. So because they have lied so many times wouldn't it make sense they just might be lying about the Apollo program? 

Mike E.
Mike E.

I believe the moon landing was also fake.  We did not have the technology then, and we don't now.  That is why we haven't been "back" since - because we were never there.  And now they say they have 'proof' with hi-def photos showing the landing spot, footprints & the flag knocked over from the blasters when taking off.  Just writing that sentence is so laughable it's amazing more people can't see through the bogus story.  These photos were simply Photoshopped. - it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.


I knew this whole scam before watching this movie, but the film basically shows exactly how the Government faked it.  The entire 'landing' & photos were taken in a studio.  Watch "Capricorn One".  It's from 1977 & it's somewhat hard to find, and I can't say how accurate the whole thing was set-up from start to finish.  If this topic is of interest to you (which if you are reading this, it is of interest) I HIGHLY recommend watching this film.  From the moonscape studio, to the slow motion (i.e. fake gravity) by slowing down the frame rate.  And, then, of course we have the audio with the nice speech "one step for mankind, etc" was transmitted from wherever the studio was (to keep all if the lies in one place, as not to endanger their phony mission.  The images then sent to NASA from the 'landing spot on the moon' were simply transmitted from the studio, so indeed the people working for NASA monitoring the mission most likely believed the audio & video coming back was real.  


I believe most likely the only people involved in lying to the world re: the fake landing are indeed the fake astronauts, the people who built the studio & handled the transmission to NASA, and most likely some very high-ups (President, Generals, Head of Nasa, etc) who kept the whole scam in check.   I know this saying, and probably most of you have heard it as well.  It goes like this:  "if you tell a lie long enough - it starts to become the truth."  That's what we have here.   A big fat lie.

Pero Tosev
Pero Tosev

There are lots of debates about the fake moon landing. I am proud to say I am one of those who don't believe that moon landing ever happened in 1969. Lots of documentaries have been created about this issues.

Just see this video and you will know what I am talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM_XwzFG8Jw


I hope you will like it and clear this dilemma ones for all time.

BlakAdda 01
BlakAdda 01

I remember watching in awe on TV back home in the UK of the Apollo11 mission in 1969.

Much later I read all the stuff about the 1st manned moon landing being a fake.

I think that alleged statement by Stanley Kirbrick is a load of crap.

Do you really think that ALL of the people engaged in the creation of this "hoax" were somehow kept silent or bumped off!! - I don`t think so. Where is the statements of the film crew, the sound crew, the set designers etc etc.

For me, the dodgy part goes back to JFK`s statement back in the early sixties when he stated "we shall go to the moon by the end of this decade..." a comment to reassure the American people (& us Brits by the way), that the Russians were not going to win the space race & be in a prominent position to blow us all to kingdom come.

In 1969, something had to be done a bit quick... & there were fatal accidents - in achieving it - but they did it.

Check out the sophisticated telescope shots of the landing area - the gears still there!!

If your an American & believe its all faked - shame on you mate.

Michael Cohen
Michael Cohen

Here is the truth about the moon landings: look up Youturbe, moon landing Kubrick and then this video: Dark Side of the Moon; Stanley Kurbrick and the fake moon landings.  Made by the French in 2002 it interviews Nixon's cabinet people and advisers such as Kissinger, Rumsfeld, Haige and others WHO ADMITTED THAT THE FILMS OF THE FIRST MOON LANDING WERE MADE BY KUBRICK IN HIS STUDIO ON LONDON WHERE HE DID 2001. They also admitted that Nixon ordered the assassination of the film makers and four of them were killed.

Destiny OFire
Destiny OFire

You know it saddens me that so many people want to make claims that the moon landing is fake, that it never happened it's all Hollywood, their is no way that it could have or did happen and if this is true, than all this stuff that is going on with Mars is fake too. I was born on that day of July 21, 1969. That is such a special day for me and when I see all of this stuff, it's almost like people are taking that away from me. 

Destiny OFire
Destiny OFire

 You know it gets old hearing of people making claims that the couldn't land on the moon because their is no way possible for man at that time to succeed to do this, or other people making comments about other things, why aren't people living on the moon, with all of the things that go on in space and we have earth why would anyone want to live on the moon? Don't you think it would be kind of hard, with no water, etc, if the moon landing is so fake, than so are the things that are going on with Mars, I was born on that day July 21, 1969, my mom remembers it all too well, and it is just so sad when so many people want to make that claim that it was all fake. Since so many people think this, I take it you were there than? You were there when the astronauts made this trip and risked their own lives

Frank Ostanek
Frank Ostanek

"Those convinced against their will, are of the same opinion still...."   -Daves' Grandma

Kanak Jinan
Kanak Jinan

Its fake because had man really landed on the moon 40 years ago, by now he should have started a colony out there. Why havent there been more manned explorations? Very unlike human nature, to stop explorations after 1 or 2 "successful" trips. After conquering the Everest, there have been innumerable "conquests", by ladies, by the visually impaired, even by the physically handicapped!! So what stops man from going to the moon again? Especially with the leaps and bounds in communication and technology that have taken place in the last 40 years!

Christine Carlson
Christine Carlson

Well, it's fake because I don't have a clue how they did that, so it must be faked, because I never studied physics or astronomy or rocket science, or tried to read any books or take any classes about science, or technology, or read up about lunar landings, so I will just make up stuff in my head, because it's so hard to comprehend how people can actually be smarter than me.  So yes, it's a total fake.  Yeah.  Right.  Yeah.     And I don't trust the goverment either, so yeah, it's fake.  I'll go back to eatin' my french fried taters. Mmm hmm.

Michael Juergen Gnaedig Fischer
Michael Juergen Gnaedig Fischer

OK folks, very easy : there are no airports on the moon.The surface is totally uneven.- No one would have taken the risk to send two brave men there, hoping that by chance their module would finally stand more or less upright.

The risk simply was too high.-The thing could have fallen down a crater.-Imagine the scenario of 2 men starving on the moon instead of turning into heroes.- Impossible and unthinkable.

Jim Snarker
Jim Snarker

I work in a restaurant in Houston, and spoke with a NASA Rocket Scientist several weeks ago.  I asked him if we can pass through the Van Allen Belt ....He laughed and said no. Simple.The Earth is surrounded By the Van Allen Radiation Belt.I posted this comment yesterday on Gizmodo , And It was removed within minutes. Why?

Thomas Zimmerman
Thomas Zimmerman

We landed on the day side of the moon each time at the start of the lunar morning. What exactly would they be looking at?

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

@Lori Quaresimo Lori, I have never ever believed in the US Moon landing, even when I was at school - not a single second of my sensible life. They can't fool me with that. No human being can leave the Earth for another celestial body. Why do you think Soviets didn't fly to the Moon? They had much more advanced technology than the Americans. Because they knew it was IMPOSSIBLE!

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

@Lori Quaresimo Lori, I have never ever believed and will never ever believe Americans landed on the Moon. They can't fool me  

with that. No human being can leave the Earth for another celestial body or even fly a very long distance from the Earth. Even if they land on the Moon, how the hell can they launch off

the Moon surface?!

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

@Mike E. Abraham Lincoln said: "You can fool a group of people all the time, or all the people for some time, but you can't fool all the people all the time."

Thomas Zimmerman
Thomas Zimmerman

There is no debate because you don't debate facts. We went to the moon. It's a fact. No room for discussion.

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

@BlakAdda 01 So you mean if you are American, you ought to believe ALL this crap about the US Moon landing. Being or not being American doesn't have anything to do with this. You don't need to be American, you just need to be an intelligent person NOT to believe such NONSENSE.

You can't accept the "people engaged in the creation of this hoax" knew about it? Good point! But ALL the people engaged didn't need to know about it - only a GROUP of people knew - the rest just did their jobs. And then, do you think ALL the people have the courage to admit or divulge such an important at government level "secret" ? Many were killed, FYI!  

Lori Quaresimo
Lori Quaresimo

@BlakAdda 01 If you are waiting for the film crew, sound crew and set designers to come forward you have a long wait. If that crew were ordinary citizens do you think they are going to come out and tell the truth? No. They would be afraid the government would silence them. But, how do you know the crew wasn't government employees? Either way, I'm not going to hold my breath for anyone that worked on the hoax to come out publicly. Like I said above, the US government has lies so many times through the course of history, I am not going to believe anything they say just because they said it. I have done my research in-depth and just using common sense shows they never landed on the moon. I believe if you don't do research and just believe what the US government reports, you should be shamed. 

Lori Quaresimo
Lori Quaresimo

@Destiny OFire Not to take the air out of your balloon but the landing was supposed to have happened on July 20th, 1969. Not the 21st.

Lori Quaresimo
Lori Quaresimo

@Destiny OFire You don't have to have been there to not believe the landing happened. There has been many, many times the US government has lied. This wouldn't have been the first time. As far as mars goes, I will admit that I haven't done any research about mars but no one is saying that anyone has landed on mars. That's a big difference.

Mugs Lehman
Mugs Lehman

@Kanak Jinan  Simple, there is nothing there for us on the moon.  They have explored it and there is no purpose to  explore it any further at the time.  Better to spend the money toward other things of interest


LOUIS LOPARDI
LOUIS LOPARDI

@Kanak Jinan , Not fake. The sad truth is we got there largely by scientific dumb luck, if not accident. Your current cell phone has more computing power than their landing module did. Scientists did not quite believe Einstein's theory that space bends, and so calculated the trip based on old Newtonian physics. They were wrong, and many course corrections had to be quickly calculated (which proved Einstein right!).  Since then, there has been a great "dumbing down" of America. Deliberate, some feel. (A stupid populace is easier to control and entertain.) The result: we are now a second class nation, and can never afford - either monetarily or intellectually - the great adventure of leaving the Earth. It will be up to other countries. Or even the State of California.

Chris Carter
Chris Carter

@Michael Juergen Gnaedig Fischer Actually, probes had already been sent to the moon to map the surface. Of course they knew which areas were relatively flat and suitable for landing. In fact, the Apollo 11 lunar module was manually flown in the last couple of hundred feet prior to touchdown, to enable it to land in a less boulder strewn area. Your ignorance is outstanding Michael, but typical of that shown by hoax nutters.

Susan Forest-Rode
Susan Forest-Rode

@Michael Juergen Gnaedig Fischer Read "The Right Stuff." These guys WANTED to take the risk. If they lived they would be heroes, if they died they would be heroes. The Cold War was raging. We were in a race against the Soviets. It was a matter of national pride and a badge of honor to even be chosen to be an astronaut. It was about winning and proving that we were the best. The space program basically stopped because 1. Lack of funding 2. President Kennedy died 3. Once it became obvious that there was nothing there to gain it seemed rather pointless to continue going back. If there was gold or oil up there you can bet we'd still be pursuing it. 

Chris Carter
Chris Carter

@Michael Juergen Gnaedig Fischer You realise that the astronauts could actually 'fly' the lunar module in a similar way to that of a helicopter. This is exactly what Neil Armstrong did during the Apollo 11 landing to avoid a boulder field. Did you not know this Michael?

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

@Jim Snarker The Van Allen Belts are one of the most vital reasons why we can't fly above the Earth further than 800-1000 kilometres, to say nothing of going to other celestial bodies. There are hundreds of reasons to prove why interstellar flights are IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!  

Chris Carter
Chris Carter

@Jim Snarker Do some internet research on the Van Allen Radiation Belts, and you might reduce your ignorance somewhat. Presently your knowledge is practically nil. Even Dr Van Allen himself has come out and stated that the belts are no huge barrier to travel outside earth's orbit. I bet you didn't know this Jim. Hoax nutters are only too happy to spread misinformation, and gullible idiots such as yourself are only too happy to snap it up, just like a hungry puppy to biscuits.

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

@Thomas Zimmerman Right!!!!! There is no debate because you don't debate facts. Well put! And facts say the contrary. You didn't go to the Moon. And, please, read my reply to Tim O'Brien.

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

@Timothy O'Brien @Pero Tosev Tim, you believe this hoax because you think axiomatically, if you thought "theorematically", you would never ever believe such nonsense. 

"We landed" means you are American, and pride speaks in you. That's not a decent way to debate - you have to base your arguments on facts and science.

Stubborn statements like "We landed. Axiomatic" don't help much. 

And then, you are originally Irish, and Irish paople are smarter than Americans. Why believe such crap.

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

@Timothy O'Brien @Pero Tosev Tim, excuse me, but you believe this nonsense because you think axiomatically, if you thought "theorematically", you would never believe it. You don't need much knowledge, just basics of physics is enough.

"We landed" means you are American and pride speaks in you. But, believe me, nationality has nothing to do with this. And then, originally, you are Irish and Irish people are much smarter than Americans, so why believe such nonsense.

Thomas Zimmerman
Thomas Zimmerman

Government employees are just people with jobs. The moon landing happened. It's not up for debate because you don't debate facts

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

@Chris Carter Ok Chris, let's imagine Apollo 11 avoided the Van Allen Belts somehow, then what or who protected them against the inexorable eternal radiation from the Sun all the way up to the Moon??? And then, you can't fly the lunar module as you put it "a couple of hundred feet" and land it wherever you want - it is quite risky - the amount of fuel is limited, and the flight and landing trajectory is calculated in advance, so one single mistake might turn out fatal. 

Ilea  Vazan
Ilea Vazan

@Chris Carter nor about the space travel..Like it or not humans never went to the Moon it is impossible and here is the simple reason  why : it is not possible to do land on and take off from the Moon and latter make a re-entry and land on Earth using a capsule (or Shuttle) after any space trip - you are going too fast and will simply burn up as you cannot brake or reduce speed in the strong gravity field pulling you down. Therefore only cosmo clownshave ever flown to the Moon or around Earth in space or visited the International Fake Station, IFS, orbiting Earth every 90 minutes. It is all a hoax. Quite fun actually.

People still believed that 18 US astronauts or cosmo clowns visited the Moon at six different occasions 1969-1972 and that 12 of them actually landed on the the ~200°C hot sunny Moon surface at six visits, some even bringing a little car along with rubber tyres, while the other six had to watch from orbit around Moon.


The US cosmo nuts or asstro clowns on the Moon survived as their space suits and shoes (!) were airconditioned. They did not understand that their shoes would melt, when touching the Moon surface. You cannot step on a 200° hot surface of any kind in vaccum without melting your protective gear and getting burnt. 


During the day the temperature on the Moon can reach 253 Fahrenheit (123 Celsius), while at night it can drop to -387 Fahrenheit (-233 Celsius).Factswww.moonzoo.org/FAQ_MoonFacts

Most people do not understand that you have to eject mass in a precise direction to change speed up or down of a space ship, while getting lighter and lighter, and that you cannot carry sufficient mass with you for any trip.


Many persons today, 2014, are then curious about the mass or amount of fuel you need to fly to the Moon ... and back using 1960's or today's space ship technology and how much it costs and arrive at this popular web page visited by 1 000's of people. If you ask Google or any search engine, it will also direct you to plenty of nonsensical sites and web pages apparently supported by NASA providing confusing info. Why is that?

The answers are simple. 

1. It is not possible to fly to the Moon and back (in spite of Wikipedia/ NASA suggesting otherwise) because you need, apart from a comfortable space ship with a very advanced steering system, a big mass of fuel/energy to do it using the best rocket engines available by the military very secret industry, but you cannot carry the mass of all the fuel with you, because you get too heavy.

2. You cannot even land on Earth again! The space ship brake system - a heat shield (LOL) for capsules or stunt flying backwards by invented US Shuttle pilots - does not work in the atmosphere. Earth gravity is much too strong and your speed too high. You or your mass including capsule or Shuttle will just go faster and faster whatever you try. No way you can brake at re-entry. Your mass and ass will burn up!

3. Any human in a space ship will immediately be fried to death due to heat radiation from the Sun and cosmic radiation. To insulate the space ship against radiation will make it too heavy. A space ship traveling between Earth and Moon is exposed 24/24 and 7/7 to the Sun, as if you were at the Equator of planet Earth but without any filtering, damping, turbulent atmosphere.Same applies to satellites orbiting Earth high above the atmosphere. They all heat up to ~200°C, when exposed to the Sun. 

4. The cost to fly to the Moon is evidently prohibitive. Better fake it and pocket the money yourself.

http://www.astronomygcse.co.uk/AstroGCSE/Unit5/gettingSpace.htm


5. You can probably create sending a small, unmanned spaceship to orbit the Moon after executing, automatically or by remote control, a very complex brake maneuver to get into Moon orbit at say 1 500 m/s speed and at 100 000 meters altitude (like Apollo 11), and then with with some complex sub-system land on the Moon (see right) after executing another, automatically or by remote control, extremely difficult brake and stop maneuver to get out of Moon orbit and get down and stop on the surface of the Moon at zero speed, but I assume not even the The People's Republic of China can manage it December 2013. The start rocket looks like a model. And the Moon lander unit (right) weight, single (!) rocket engine for steering and braking, fuel, control systems data, times of maneuver, etc. are unknown and you wonder, if it has been tested on planet Earth.

 In films you can do better job than the Chinese Moon landing in 2013...It looks like stupid science fiction. The videos of the landing just shows the flat Moon surface coming closer and closer from 90° above. 100% nonsense. Those are the reasons why USA/NASA faked Moon trips six times in the 1960's and 1970's to impress ... and manipulate ... friends and foes.

"NASA is not going to the Moon with a human as a primary project probably in my lifetime, NASA chief clown Charles Bolden said" April 5, 2013, is simple joke. You cannot go there at all. You have never been there. But the show must go on. 

http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/04/05/back-to-the-moon-not-any-time-soon-says-bolden/

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

@Thomas Zimmerman Right!!!! ...you don't debate facts! And the facts in this case say the contrary. You did NOT go to the Moon! One of the facts which say this is that you can't even stand a second on the Moon surface. Your feet would melt immediately because the temperature on the Moon surface is very high - more than 200 degrees, FYI. 

Thomas Zimmerman
Thomas Zimmerman

Literally nothing you've said is remotely true.

1.) we had a nice comfy space ship, called the CSM and LM.

2.) space ships use the compression of the atmosphere during re-entry to slow down. Otherwise a sky diver would hit unlimited speeds during free fall. They don't, do they?

3.) even the most basic understanding of the laws of thermodynamics blows this point out of the water.

4.) yes, it was expensive but no more than public education - which I daresay you are a victim of.

5.) ????

Jocelyn Messier
Jocelyn Messier

@Ilea Vazan @Chris Carter I'd like to say that I am not going to insult you but I would be lying if I said that. All I will say is that you are an idiot and that's the only answer that you deserve. 

asif hashimov
asif hashimov

@Thomas Zimmerman Thomas, in the1960s and 70s the most powerful engines on the American rockets were Soviet engines or modified Soviet engines, FYI, because the American rocket engines and space technology of that time were backward. But even Soviet engines were not powerful enough to accomplish manned flights to the Moon. Take me for granted, if manned flights to the Moon had been possible, the Soviets would have again flown there before the Americans.

Share

The Future of Food

  • Processed with VSCOcam with g3 preset

    Why Food Matters

    How do we feed nine billion people by 2050, and how do we do so sustainably?

See blogs, stories, and news » »