Oleg Kalugin — Well, if you don't trust people, you are doomed to failure, I mean, really, you have to trust. But you have to be also a little bit suspicious, a little bit distrustful.
We always thought of the FBI highly. We viewed it, this organization, as a formidable one. In the intelligence business, it's better to overestimate (your enemies) than underestimate, (so) we never just thought of the FBI as an incompetent or weak organization. It was an adversary, a formidable adversary, truly.
Tom Foreman — The brotherhood of spies.
Oleg Kalugin — And why not, it's international, you know?
Several months later, I saw a man who looked like Oleg sitting at a counter in a Washington diner and I slipped up behind him.
"Good morning," I said in my best Russian. He looked at me, and with a perfect South Carolina drawl replied, "Excuse me?" "You're Oleg Kalugin," I stammered in English. "Sorry, that's not me," he chuckled.
I was mistaken, maybe.
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